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Saulius I wanted to thank the panel on this week's Gabfest for properly articulating the conservative viewpoints on the KSM trials. Even if you guys ultimately did not agree with the position, it was nice that it was put forth in a thoughtful, and noncondescending manner. Bravo...of course, that all went out the window when discussing Palin, but at this point, I'll take what I can get. Baby steps.
Beth Potter Just wanted to applaud John Dickerson for giving cudos to the prematurely cancelled show "Wonderfalls." If the current state of affairs starts to get to you, pop in this DVD. It'll make it all better.
Daniel Margolis
Dear All,
I posted a clarification on some of the mammogram controversies in the podcast entry, below. I hope it helps.
Thank you,
Daniel
Slate Political Gabfest
Hi all. We're very sorry about the confusion over the current Audible offer. We had a miscommunication and we understand the details weren't clear. Here's what you need to know: Unfortunately, the offer is not available to existing Audible members, and there’s a limit of one book per customer. For those of you who are ...already loyal Audible members, we hope to come up with another way to thank you (as we did with Plotz's free book earlier this year). Still, if you haven't tried Audible, this is a great chance to get a free book without purchasing a monthly membership. Check out www.audible.com/Thanksgiving between now and Nov. 26, 2009, and choose from a list of free titles. Thanks. (AB)Read More
Source: www.audible.com
JT Teerlink Once again those of us that are already audible customers do not benefit from audible promotions. It makes me resent them a little, wish they had some competition. I suppose I could go back to my library card just to spite them.
Stephan Kinsella
Second bone: Emily accuses Palin of lying because of the Death Panels remark. The other lies or errors that I've heard of seem trivial, and this one does not seem like a lie. See Lew Rockwell here http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/ar
"On Morning Joe today, all the Republicans employed by the Obama ...regime
via MSNBC were united with the Dems in chastizing Sarah Palin for her
comment that Obamacare would lead to death panels promoting euthanasia
and infanticide of the “unfit.” How could the mobs possibly think this?
After all, Obama supports federal funding for killing the unborn, and
his plan will massively expand this program. He sends his predator
drones to kill those unfit for life, according to his calculus, in
Afghanistan. He supports a war in Iraq that has taken a million lives.
He has ethnically cleansed millions in Pakistan. He is the product of
an ideological movement that is pro-euthanasia. Of course, Obamacare
will eventuate in killing people."
We libertarians recognize the state is nothing but a killing machine, an agent of destruction and death. You liberals are very inconsistent about this. As the great Ludwig von Mises said, “No socialist author ever gave a thought to the possibility that the
abstract entity which he wants to vest with unlimited power—whether it
is called humanity, society, nation, state, or government—could act in
a way of which he himself disapproves.”Read More
"On Morning Joe today, all the Republicans employed by the Obama ...regime
via MSNBC were united with the Dems in chastizing Sarah Palin for her
comment that Obamacare would lead to death panels promoting euthanasia
and infanticide of the “unfit.” How could the mobs possibly think this?
After all, Obama supports federal funding for killing the unborn, and
his plan will massively expand this program. He sends his predator
drones to kill those unfit for life, according to his calculus, in
Afghanistan. He supports a war in Iraq that has taken a million lives.
He has ethnically cleansed millions in Pakistan. He is the product of
an ideological movement that is pro-euthanasia. Of course, Obamacare
will eventuate in killing people."
We libertarians recognize the state is nothing but a killing machine, an agent of destruction and death. You liberals are very inconsistent about this. As the great Ludwig von Mises said, “No socialist author ever gave a thought to the possibility that the
abstract entity which he wants to vest with unlimited power—whether it
is called humanity, society, nation, state, or government—could act in
a way of which he himself disapproves.”Read More
Source: www.lewrockwell.com
On Morning Joe today, all the Republicans employed by the Obama regime via MSNBC were united with the Dems in chastizing Sarah Palin for her comment that Obamacare would lead to death panels promoting ...
Stephan Kinsella
Two bones to pick with Emily. First, she is infuriated with Palin for not giving credit to feminism, even though she "gained" from victories of feminism. I am no Palin fan, and as a libertarian am not completely opposed to the feminist agenda. But criticisms like these seem incredibly unfair to me. They seek to muzzle ...people by virtue of their gender or race. It's okay for a white man to oppose affirmative action but not Clarence Thomas since he "benefitted" from it; a man can criticize feminism ... but not a woman? People have a perfect right to hold whatever views they want, regardless of their gender or race etc.; they can even disagree with a policy that has affected (even benefitted) them. (I oppose patent law even though I've made money off of it; a tax lawyer can oppose the income tax; a cancer doctor can oppose cancer, etc.) Second bone later.Read More
Erin Hastings
I was disappointed by the Audible offer as well - the way it was described on the Gabfest was that anyone, even someone already an Audible member, could get audiobooks, and yes, it was described as BOOKS. I wish they had told us it was only one, and for first time Audible members only. I'm just glad I was only embarras...sed within my family for telling them the wrong idea, and hadn't spread it among others of my aquaintance. I realize that sponsors call certain shots, but I wish that our friends at Slate had spelled this out a little more exactly.Read More
Edwin E. Hopkins
I tried the Audible.com thanksgiving free podcasts and was terribly disappointed. I thought you said you could get multiple free audio books without putting in your credit card number. Stock up for the thanksgiving holidays!! I thought this a brilliant idea on Audible's part. I was going to get a bunch of audio books... and try them out. I might like them. I was psyched up and ready to go.
But...you can only get one book. And to get that book you have to create an account with Audible and then when you bring the book down to your computer, it is digital rights protected. (it is true that you do not have to put in a credit card number.)
I was not going this route. I tried to delete my account and could not find a way to do it. I hate sites like that. I changed my name and email address so that the mail would never come to me and left the account in existence.
Audible really blew it. I could have become a fan of audio books if I could have tried a few in a non-encumbered way.Read More
But...you can only get one book. And to get that book you have to create an account with Audible and then when you bring the book down to your computer, it is digital rights protected. (it is true that you do not have to put in a credit card number.)
I was not going this route. I tried to delete my account and could not find a way to do it. I hate sites like that. I changed my name and email address so that the mail would never come to me and left the account in existence.
Audible really blew it. I could have become a fan of audio books if I could have tried a few in a non-encumbered way.Read More
Gant awful news everyone! Bill Moyers is retiring!!!!
Source: mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com
The PBS mainstay Bill Moyers said he is retiring from weekly television and will end his Friday night public affairs program.
Mark Horowitz John Dickerson, kudos on your Bugs Bunny quote "We must have taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque." David might know the O.T. but being able to quote from Loony Tunes shows a true breadth of knowledge. (Or exposes a childhood with far too much TV time)
Khalid
I've been a big fan of the gabfest podcasts since the beginning, but lately a troubling thought pops in to my head, when I listen. It strikes me that there are no people of color on any of the panels and at times the discourse could benefit from that diversity (also, there are only two columnists of color at slate.com..., by my count). Issues of race and class come up constantly on the gabfests and it would be nice to have the viewpoint of someone other than middle aged, highly educated, East Coast dwelling White people, tossed into the mix. Don't get me wrong. I love me some middle aged, highly educated, East Coast dwelling White people. It would just be nice to hear what a young Black female film critic thought of Precious or what a middle aged Puerto Rican sports writer thought about the Washington Nationals' stolen signing bonuses scandal, to name a couple of examples. Racial diversity doesn't guarantee diversity of opinion or better conversation, but it sure couldn't hurt.Read More
Lyndsey Horton Martin So is this where we suggest Audible downloads? I want to recommend Christopher Moore's "A Dirty Job." It's sad, it's hilarious, the reader does an excellent job with the many characters and it's got a crapload of creative cursing.
Pam Fasig
Jason Palmer started a discussion below that raises significant implications for both the KSM trial and the way the U.S. treats Al-Qaeda. Jason argues Al-Qaeda declared war on the U.S. in the 1990s and this make the attacks of 9/11/01 "acts of war." If true, this creates a huge problem for the U.S. because acts of war ...are not illegal. "War crimes" are illegal, but "acts of war" are not. Were the 9/11 attacks war crimes? Unlikely. War had been declared years earlier. Attacks upon civilian targets made in furtherance of a war are not war crimes (see for example Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki). Nor were the 9/11 targets attacks upon random civilian targets. They were aimed at the military, governmental, and economic structures of U.S. society, which have been traditional targets of war for thousands of years. I disagree very strongly with the argument that what happened on 9/11 was an act of war rather than an act of mass murder. Murder is a crime and people who commit it can be punished.Read More
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