Bob Barr

Will reform of the States Secret Doctrine ever be voted on?

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(I response to Michael Kelley) I blame the voting system; simple plurality is shit. Why would people put much thought into voting when its an A or B choice?

Army to keep media from covering a Palin event. Bob get on this one. Example of how our First Amendment rights are being trashed and the state of our repressive society. Now it's the Bush/Obama Administration that tries to keep information from the American people.

Bob - good first step - But will you also advocate for a Truth Commission?

A Variation of Bush's TIPS Program - On Steroids Since Going Underground
Conspicuous Surveillance by Citizen Stalkers using:
Red Cars... Read More
Red Trucks
Wearing-Carrying Red
to harass and surveill targets 24/7
Is this COINTELPRO 2009?

From the Feingold "Restoring the Rule of Law" hearing -
We need " bipartisan independent investigatory Commission"
"A Commission would serve several vital functions. It would reveal the many as-yet-unknown aspects of what our government has done and how it evaluated or rationalized its actions. And there is much we do not know. We still do not know, for example, the legal justifications advanced for the so-called "extraordinary rendition" or "terrorist surveillance" programs." Further, "Nor do we know whether there are other secret programs that have not yet been revealed."

From Team of federal Inspectors general report, July, 2009 - the Bush surveillance program was massive - the report questioned the legal basis for the effort (which was crafted by John Yoo) - the nature of the massive surveillance program remains classified.

Feingold Report Card on Obama - all incompletes in the area of Surveillance and Privacy where Obama is continuing Bush policies

How will we know if there is a COINTELPRO 2009 without a truth Commission?

The false sense of security provided by centralized controls reveal themselves for their naive and unfulfilled intentions. While various political interests wage witch hunts to blame Islamic boogeymen, they really just need to look within their own hearts, and rediscover the wisdom of The Founding Fathers and the origins of the Second Amendment. Peace through strength.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage then to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

--- Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764

I thought this was an onion article until I saw bob barr posted it.

people that object to this on the grounds that these people might escape and make their way into the Chicago area (where I live part of the year) need to look up where Thompson, IL is on a map. Its ~150miles away from downtown, and even for a bloodlusting jihadist bent on blowing up the Sears Tower (sorry, the Willis Tower), that's a long walk.

As an Illinois resident, I support this.

Sorry Bob, good luck with the left stream media.

Personally I watch all three(MSNBC, CNN, FOX), even tho I do not agree with MANY of the personalities. But it's best to see the point of view of others even if you do not agree with them. I really miss Lou Dobbs, Brit Hume and Tim Russert... The best in news. Anyone remember what that nut job Glenn Beck use to be like on CNN Headline news?? He use to make sense. Now he is into making CENTS it seems... Loser.
Good luck Bob I WILL be watching.

What shit is this. A work of fiction is no basis for political thought. I know how popular her books are amongst your fans but there is no need for you to pander.

The wonderful thing about human speech and language is the ability it gives us to recognize the idiots and moochers among us.

Time to hit the reset button. No incumbents in 2010/2012.
It is time for a third party to emerge; the Libertarian Party.

Timothy Qura: What do you mean by your statement?

Eric, when you have an imperial presidency, when you have a state secrets doctrine that prevents using the courts for accountability, when you have an overuse of classification to avoid public scrutiny, when you have an FBI that abuses power through COINTELPRO programs, when you have Congress who is suppose to be providing oversight not being ... Read Moreinformed of classified surveillance policies, when you have fusion centers operating without oversight, when you have firemen reporting suspicious people to fusion centers and that information going in data banks with no due process, when you have Constitutional rights being trashed with no recourse - you need a countervailing power. I agree with you government is our problem. Our forefathers knew it would be true and added Amendments to our Constitution to prevent government from intruding on our rights. The problem is there is nothing - not Congress, not the Courts - nothing that has safeguarded our rights from the Imperial Presidency. Now we know it doesn't matter which party gets in, our constitutional rights are being trashed, our democratic government is under attack. President Obama has failed to nominate a full slate of members to The Privacy and Civil Liberties Board - so that tells me he is afraid of it with his civil liberties record. A full cabinet department would be even more threatening to the Imperial Presidency and unlike The Privacy and Civil Liberties Board - he would have to appoint a Secretary to the Department of Civil Liberties. Yes, liberty. Yes, less government. But just with a Defense Department, a Justice Department, intelligence agencies, an Imperial Presidency, a bought and paid for Congress - just give me one department dedicated to preserving my civil liberties.

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You mean an American citizen who happens to be black.. I freakin' hate that hypenated b.s.... I'm not a dutch-american, I'm an American who happens to be of dutch lineage.

I think things like police quotas are so dumb. I'd rather have my police relaxing waiting for real police work then going around performing random stops, giving tickets at speed traps, and stoping people at parking lots for not wearing seatbelts, and all that waste.

There's supposed to be a system in place to stop this crap but of course we ignore that too.

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Yep, more power to the government.

I smoke and I vote!!

...or give the power back to the people and let us start voting on which laws to REMOVE! Since 98% of laws oppress the rights of business and individuals, we would have one hell of a ballot....but worth it!

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch."

- Benjamin Franklin

Please Bob Barr look into Surveillance Policy of U.S. revealed by Inspectors General Report in July, 2009.

Is COINTELPRO Back Using Organized Gang Stalking?

Some of the tactics used in gang stalking are similar to tactics used in the Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO) used by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) between 1956 and 1971. Brian Glick, an attorney, tells us in his book, War at Home, the four main methods used by the FBI during COINTELPRO were psychological warfare, infiltration, harassment through the legal system, and extralegal force and violence. Just as neighbors today are solicited to join in gang stalking a target, back in the fifties and sixties, the FBI would pressure parents, employers, landlords. school officials and others in the life of targets to cause problems for them. Back then the FBI used dirty tricks to discredit targets, just as today in organized gang stalking misinformation about targets is spread. Brian Glick tells us the FBI used psychological warfare in their COINTELPRO program in the 50’s and 60’s against targets; today in organized gang stalking psychological tactics are used where ordinary everyday items are repetively used to create doublebinds. Open garage doors, lawn mowers left on front lawns are repetitively used by all the gang stalkers to attract the target’s notice where to notice and report such everything things makes the target sound crazy – the intent of the gang stalkers. In the 50’s and 60’s FBI agents would infiltrate groups pretending to be members; gang stalking targets today allege infiltration is taking place again with those feigning to be gang stalking targets making outrageous claims to create the impression targets are paranoid.... Read More
Is COINTELPRO back? Let’s look at the facts. The Attorney General’s Guidelines released on May 30, 2002 rescinded anti-COINTELPRO regulations opening the door to further COINTELPRO operations. Allegations have been made that organized gang stalkers are using red cars, red trucks, wearing-carrying red. The FBI has used conspicuous surveillance before. Moreover, the Bush Administration wanted to get community groups such as the Neighborhood Watch Groups to play a broader role of surveillance in the War on Terror. Its Justice Department put forth the Terrorist Information and Prevention System, Operation TIPS, which planned to involve millions of workers nationwide as informants in the War on Terror. Through a Citizen Corp George Bush hoped to get Americans across the country engaged in homeland security. The Bill of Rights Defense Committee said the TIPS program would get citizens to “secretly provide information to the government about any persons whom they consider suspicious, and for the government to set up files on these persons.” The fear of the Bill of Rights Defense Committee was that doing that “may potentially damage someone’s record due to innocent activities that are misunderstood or are invented or enhanced by the caller because of a personal vendetta.” Under pressure from Congress the TIPS program was supposedly not put into effect. But it has been said a version of it was put into effect in secret. Regardless, a team of inspectors general in July, 2009 reported that the Bush administration did put into effect an unprecedented surveillance operation by executive order after the 9/11 attack. We don’t know what the surveillance programs were because they are classified. Representative Jane Harman expressed shock when she heard of these classified surveillance programs. Senator Patrick Leahy called for a nonpartisan inquiry into the government’s information-gathering programs. When in response to two Freedom of Information Act lawsuits the FBI published on its website its Domestic Investigations and Operations Guidelines, it deleted almost the entire section on the “undisclosed participation” by the FBI or its informants in domestic groups. So the question is who are the FBI’s informants in domestic groups? Is there a relationship between what it is trying to hide and the citizens with red cars, red trucks, wearing and carrying red who are part of the organized gang stalkers harassing American citizens.
COINTELPRO in the 50’s and 60’s targeted members of the women’s rights movement, the National Lawyer’s Guild, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, groups protesting the Vietnam War, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People among others. The Church Committee concluded our government undertook government surveillance of people because of their political beliefs even when there was no threat of violence or criminal behavior on behalf of a foreign power. The American Civil Liberties Union tells us today Section 802 of the USA Patriot Act expanded the type of conduct the government can investigate when investigating terrorism. “The definition of domestic terrorism is broad enough to encompass the activities of several prominent activist campaigns and organizations.” The ACLU names Greenpeace, Operation Rescue, Vieques Island and WTO protestors and the Environmental Liberation Front” as having engaged in activities that could be branded domestic terrorism. While the right is complaining the label domestic terrorist is being attached to supporters of Ron Paul, Bob Barr, libertarians, those who have written about the constitution, Tea Party Activists and a host of others.
Senator Feingold, the chairman of the Constitution Subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee, before he even knew who would succeed George Bush, called on the incoming President “to pledge his commitment to restoring the rule of law” in America. In his Report Card on the First 100 Days of the Obama Administration he has given an “Incomplete” in every area of Obama’s record on Domestic Surveillance and Privacy:

This is what is being done "covertly" against U.S. citizens.

Is COINTELPRO Back Using Organized Gang Stalking?

Imagine what it is like to be stalked by 20, 30, or 40 people a day, to have one of them there when you leave your house in the morning, there when you come home at night. That is what organized gang stalking targets go through. They are stalked at intersections, in parks, in stores, as they walk along streets, as they enter or exit buildings, everywhere they go. Now imagine that this organized gang stalking happens not for one day or for a week or for a month, but for years.... Read More
A target’s property might have trash thrown on it. There might be car alarms set off or beeping of horns if they try to take a walk, when the go to throw out the trash. There might be noise scheduled to disrupt their sleep. Neighbors might be enlisted to join in the harassment in an attempt to socially isolate the target. Dogs might be used to intimidate, running up to the target, or jumping out of car windows. There might be wrong numbers to the target’s phone, vehicles stopping and standing in front of the target’s home.



What organized gang stalkers do is sensitize the target to a stimulus that all the gang stalkers use. The stimulus is often an everyday thing – for instance, the color “red.” The thing that makes the stimulus so aversive is the frequency with which it occurs. A group of 20 or 30 or 40 or more of organized gang stalkers might be involved in harassing the target, so the target is continuously harassed with the same stimulus but by different individuals. Every time the target enters or leaves his or her home, for instance, an organized gang stalker will be there with something red on. The target’s routines are ascertained. Neighbors – afraid of being gang stalked themselves – might alert the gang stalkers when the target is leaving his or her home. When the target walks on the beach, three or four gang stalkers wearing red might be there. When the target opens his or her blinds in the morning, the first thing he or she will see will be a gang stalker in red. It is the frequency of the stimulus and the duration of the gang stalking that makes it so aversive along with the isolation of the target.

No wonder there's a delay in seasonal vaccinations!

I agree....crime is a disease that should be eradicated. Let's arm the U.S. populace and fight this horrible disease. ; )
LOL! I'm sure that's not the angle that the Obama CDC was thinking about.

If you're going to quote a movie, at least get the quote right!

its all a fraud,soon there will be forced vaccanations,detentions of the people who do not comply,and matrial law emposed / civil war!you have to understand..big pharma,who has been makeing this vaccs,for over 3 years now, way before the 1st case was reported to the c.d.c will not stand by and let some people slip thru..no its all about the money..and the govt,showing the people,that through problem,crises,solution,you need & want govt run healthcare.. its for you own good..