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The fact, Granwyth, that you complain yet offer no solutions tells me that you are simply another ineffectual troll.

@terry i'm criticizing hate crimes legislation. So obviously the solution would be to get rid of them. I didn't think I would have to spell it out.
I am surprised that you call me a troll when the points I made are valid and backed up with analysis and empirical evidence.

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT HATE CRIMES LAWS HAVE A DETERRENT EFFECT?
I do not, so it seems to me just another tool to fill prisons. Maybe instead of trying to marginalize my points by labeling me a "troll" you could point out why you believe wholeheartedly that hate crimes legislation deters crime. ... See More
Because then you must also believe that the death penalty is valid because of its' deterrent effect, or that california's three strikes law is good because of its deterrent effect.
Maybe one of you could explain why hate crimes deter crime, but these abominations don't.

Just this morning I was talking to someone about the merits of such actions, but something that ACLU could do to avoid being misunderstood by the public is to issue another statement encouraging the two sides (ie Christians and Muslims) to engage in open discourse, and maybe even ask the school to facilitate that process.

I fully support the law ... See Moresuit though, and not just because I believe in the goddess of free speech, but because free speech is the first step toward unrestricted dialogue, which in turn is essential for resolving conflicts. The point is that free speech is necessary but not sufficient. But, I don't know if the rest of it fits within ACLU's operating philosophy.

the computer is talking to people through the tv leave a tv on in a room and then sit in another room and you can hear the government talking through the tv

He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Shameful.

I still say the tapes can keep - let's look at them in 5 or 10 years when our kids aren't going to die because we inflamed our enemies beyond imagination.

Destruction of the tapes is a whole other can of worms, of course...

Oh great, the ole cop "you eyeballing me?" thing....

This is just stupid. The threat isn't from the passengers, it's from SAMs on the ground. If Mexicans can walk drugs across our southern border they can bring in SAMs, and then some terrorist just needs to sit in the Costco parking lot north of the San Francisco runways and take out a big lumbering 747-heavy and drop it right on South S.F.

Prior to 9/11 pilots were TRAINED to comply with hijackers, and they followed their training that day. Now everyone knows better. I don't think we should check our civil rights with our luggage, and I tell the TSA folks just so. I'm downright surly with them sometimes when they're just being stupid, makes my wife unhappy though. (and only when I know I have extra time to make my flight)

So now for holidays I drive our family around in a multi-ton motor home which has a 120 gal Diesel tank and a 45 gal Propane tank. Don't you all feel safer driving now? Hint, don't cut off the motor home. It's a lot of weight to stop, and in any collision you'll lose. Plus side of driving a motor home is that it's a comfortable ride, no jet-lag, and multiple passengers for one gas/diesel bill. And there's no fasten seatbelt time out. You need a bio break just pull over on the next exit, not "wait 20 minutes until we land, wait for a gate, then get caught in cattle jam de-planing". My poor toddler left a wet seat one time for the next passenger. ... See More

I hate flying now, and TSA doesn't help. Airlines should be worried.

Marriage was made a civil institution by the insecure religious groups; they wanted it to have the force of law, the power of the State, now they have to live with the logic of equal protection, fundamental fairness and due process. And that is just a byproduct of eliminating a separation between churches and the State: the churches have to become... See More rational. No, marriage has NEVER been a purely religious institution in the United States. It is, however, being made more rational, more fair and more available.

Rest in peace, Edna Brown, Brandon Teena, Rita Hester, Tyra Hunter, Maxwell Confait, Diane Delia, Thomas Hall, Robert Eads, and others. Many, many others.

These are ones we are aware of, there must be dozens more whose names we will never know. How very sad. Hate crimes are the symptom of a very sick society.

Hate will continue until mindsets are changed. How can we not see people for their good character, not for their differences?