NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ

NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ I'm now on Twitter @LarryCoon, because the world needs more Larry Coon....

November 21 at 2:39pm
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ

NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ Billy Hunter said today that salaries are falling this season, and that there is $1.5 billion less in committed salaries than in 2005-06. I'll delve into the numbers this weekend and write up my findings.

November 20 at 2:44pm
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ

NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ Shameless self-promotion: Here's (my latest for NY TImes. I caught up with Derek Fisher (the Players Union president) to check on the status of negotiations.

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With the collective bargaining agreement between the N.B.A. and the players union set to expire in 2011, the parties once again have begun to lay the groundwork for the negotiations toward a new agreement.
Jason Sawyer
Jason Sawyer
How'd they get him to talk?!
November 18 at 12:11pm
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
Fisher? I talked to him for a few minutes in the locker room last week.
November 18 at 12:42pm
Jordan Kinner

Jordan Kinner Hi Larry. I am wondering what it would take to have Lebron, Wade, and Chris Bosh all end up in Miami next season. Can you explain how the contractual side of it would work out for it to actually happen? Thanks.

November 14 at 8:32am · Report
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If you have ESPN Insider, Chad Ford breaks it down here: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?page=boshmiamiscenario-091113

Signing the three at max means you're paying them about $49.7M total (more if Wade doesn't opt out). they have Beasley at $5M, Cook at $2.2M, and Anthony at $900K. They can waive Jones, but he has a partial guarantee of about $1.9M -- that's $10M for four guys, plus cap holds.

If the cap is $53M next summer, then they have to have no more than about $3.3M on the books in order to directly sign those guys for $49.7M.... See More

So they'd have to trade away salary, most likely in the form of a Sign-and-Trade with Toronto and/or Cleveland. There are ways to work it out, but it's a stretch, requires a lot of cooperation from multiple parties, and is a long shot at best.
November 17 at 10:53am
William McCandless

William McCandless I am an agent who has used your FAQ many times, so thanks. As a lawyer, still the agreement wasn't as clear as you made it.

Here's my question: The CBA says nothing about the pension and the years required to vest. Used to be three, but players are telling me now that a player vests in 4 or 5 years. Your take? Thanks again

November 13 at 12:54pm · Report
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
You're right -- it's not in the CBA. I don't have a hard reference, but I had dinner with Bill Tosheff a few months ago (Pre-1965 NBA Players Association president), and if I remember right, he told me it was four years.

But I won't swear to that answer -- it could also be three. I think I remember (I wasn't taking notes -- it was a casual ... See Moredinner) Tosheff saying he'd been working to bridge the two year gap between the vesting requirement for the Pre-65 players (five years) and current players.
November 16 at 12:13pm
William McCandless
William McCandless
Thanks very much, yes, I guess there is a pension agreement which is outside the CBA. Thanks again.
November 17 at 6:28am
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While a number of teams are likely to explore bringing in Byron Scott, who was dismissed as coach of the New Orleans Hornets on Thursday, the best fit might come with a return to his N.B.A. roots in Los Angeles.
David

David Larry: Why does a player such as second-year, second round pick like Nathan Jawai with a salary this year of $736,420 count exactly this amount for purposes of computing the luxury tax, while a second-year undrafted player like Othello Hunter -- also with a salary this year of $736,420 -- counts $825,497 for tax purpo...ses?

How about Jonas Jerebko? His salary this year is $457,588, but his tax number is $455,508?

Thanks Larry.

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November 10 at 2:58pm · Report
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See Q16 of my FAQ. They make a few adjustments to salaries for tax purposes:

* Zero- and one-year vets signed as free agents are taxed at the two-year minimum salary ($825K) if they make less than that (e.g. Hunter). Jawai was signed as a draft pick and not a free agent, so he's not subject to this rule.

* The cap number for the year includes likely bonuses and doesn't include unlikely bonuses. At the end of the year they subtract likely bonuses that weren't earned, and add in unlikely bonuses that were earned.... See More

Jerebko was signed this year as a second round pick, and is earning the rookie minimum salary. Where are you seeing a different tax number for him, especially since the number you quoted is below the rookie minimum?
November 11 at 12:39pm
David
David
Larry: I got the number for Jerebko from the Real GM salary sheets......
November 11 at 3:41pm
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
You'll have to give me a link to something -- I don't see anything with that number for him.

And like I said, the actual tax numbers are determined after the season, not before. Plus you can be pretty certain that nobody's going to be taxed at a salary below the minimum -- so I suspect the number you saw was an error.
November 12 at 11:12am
Jake Peterson

Jake Peterson Quick question: What happens when a mid-season trade puts a team over the luxury tax? Do they still have to pay the tax, or do they have until the following July to pay the tax? Thanks, you're the man.

November 1 at 4:37pm · Report
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
Luxury tax is based on the team salary as of the team's last regular season game. So a deadline trade counts the same as having the player on your roster the entire season.

The amounts are calculated during the July moratorium, and paid in July.
November 2 at 8:13am
Brian Gurtman

Brian Gurtman Eddy Curry's salary next year is based on a player option. In order to clear room to sign LeBron and Dwyane Wade, can the Knicks be creative and tell Eddy that if he declines the option they will pay him a roughly $12,000,000 salary to perform some other function (scouting, etc.)? Thoughts?

October 29 at 11:18am · Report
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
No, a way-above-customary salary for a different job, in conjunction with an otherwise-unexplainable walking away from a similar amount of guaranteed salary as a player, wouldn't even pass the laugh test. It'd clearly be circumvention.
October 29 at 1:15pm
Gage Mueller

Gage Mueller Is there a way to get a copy of the Collective Bargaining agreement for the Refs?

October 29 at 9:09am · Report
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
I don't know, but you can try. Give the league a call at 212-407-8000, ask to speak with someone who deals with it, and ask if it's available.
October 29 at 1:13pm
David

David Larry, what is the significance of a player's tenure on their status as a restricted or unrestricted free agent? I am looking at the case of Mario Chalmers. Two scenarios:

a) Let's assume that Miami picks up his option for '10-11. After the '10-11 season, would Chalmers be a restricted or unrestricted free agent be...cause he has 3 or less years in the league?

b) Let's assume that Miami does not pick up his option for '10-11. Would Chalmers then become a restricted or unrestricted free agent? My thinking is that he would become an unrestricted free agent. However does it matter that he has only been in the NBA for 2 years?

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October 21 at 11:31am · Report
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He will be restricted (assuming the Heat make a Qualifying Offer). Since he wasn't a first round draft pick, he's subject to restricted free agency through his first three years in the league. The option doesn't matter -- whether he invokes his option or not, he will still have completed his contract and entered free agency with three or fewer years' tenure.
October 21 at 12:34pm
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ

NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ First blog post is up for the Times.

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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
Howard, I have to say I was a little disappointed you guys didn't cover my shaving it with a little more...hoopla. It was a major media event in MY book...
October 20 at 7:02pm
Rich Sobiecki
Rich Sobiecki
It seems like the Knicks would have to take on an equally bad, but smaller and longer contract. Curry/Chandler for SJax/Claxton, for example.
October 20 at 7:33pm
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ Starting tomorrow I will be blogging for the New York Times. More details to follow...

October 19 at 7:29pm
Ariel
Ariel
Congrads...will follow..
October 19 at 8:43pm
Jason Ostrowski

Jason Ostrowski Quick question: In the case of Eddy Curry and Jarred Jeffries, since they both have an option year left on each of their contracts; can the Knicks buy out their contracts in a way where it will not reflect on the 2010 cap?

October 12 at 11:06am · Report
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It depends on the players' individual contracts. There's a clause that says what happens to non-invoked options when the player is waived. There's also a window (that's usually a matter of individual negotiation) during which the player is allowed to invoke his option. I know Curry's opens the day after the season ends, but I don't know about Jeffries (who has an ETO, by the way, not an option).

Continued...
October 12 at 4:53pm
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NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
In Curry's case, it's -possible- to get out from under any 2010 obligation, but not bloody likely. He & the Knicks could mutually agree to amend his contract to void his option. Once they do that, his contract ends next summer no matter what, so if they waived him, none of his salary would count against 2010-11. But they most Curry could get in ... See Morea buyout is his 2009-10 salary of $10.5M -- he'd be walking away from an additional $11.3M. I don't know why he'd agree to do that -- it's not like he's going to get that much from another team.
October 12 at 4:57pm
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
NBA Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining Agreement FAQ
In Jeffries' case, since he has an ETO rather than an option, voiding it wouldn't help -- the contract would still end in 2011. The only thing they could do is get him to invoke his ETO, but I don't know if his window is open. And similar to Curry, he's owed about $6.9M next season, so even if it was possible, I don't see any reason he'd agree to walk away from that.
October 12 at 5:00pm