The End of America

The End of America The top five picks in Slate’s Choose Your Own Apocalypse: loose nukes, peak oil, antibiotic resistance, China unloads U.S. Treasurys, Israel-Arab War. Which of those scenarios do you think is most likely to end America? Least likely?

August 10, 2009 at 2:05pm
Markus
Markus
All of the above, and civil war, America is already tearing itself apart from the inside, and with all the miscengenation and ignorance to be self-sufficient, the have nots will come for the haves. Will We the haves have the guts to defend against them?
February 1 at 5:06pm
The End of America

The End of America Do you think Mormonism will help carry on American culture and values after the United States ceases to exist?

August 7, 2009 at 2:48pm
Jerry Reil
Jerry Reil
The Book of Mormon? the word mormon means "more good"
So it is the Book of More Good!
Its pages are filled with principles that all lovers of liberty could find beneficial. Many accounts of an ancient people struggling with freedom; their losing it to their pride and wickedness; and defending it from invaders without and traitors within.

Here is a chapter where one of their own countrymen sought to destroy their liberty and replace it with kings. What is best is the attitude and mindset of General Moroni. You see if it doesn't inspire you and if you don't feel the same way as Moroni:... See More
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/alma/46

There are som many more. Mormons are some of Freedoms best men. They will play a great part in preserving the Constitution.
Freedom will be preserved though by a thread. This government no longer codifies the Constitution and they are now almost finished with a new government to replace it altogether.
August 16, 2009 at 1:04am
Alan
August 17, 2009 at 5:38pm
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For the last week, I've considered many possible scenarios for America's downfall: the rise of a climate strongman, the emergence of a transnational class of superhumans, secession by the country's leading maple syrup producer, and others. ...
Keith
Keith
What? Republicans have a completely different idea of what threats pose the biggest risks to America? I'm shocked! And stunned! I never would have predicted that . . .

. . . from the approval polls that consistently show Republicans in general and Southern Republicans in particular as being totally out of step with the entire rest of the nation.
August 7, 2009 at 1:56pm
Terry Brookman
Terry Brookman
It is the worm in the apple that rots it not the worm outside.
January 18 at 1:06pm
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"Choose Your Own Apocalypse" was selected as the site of the day by Rambler, one of the most-popular Web sites in Russia. They label the project a must-read...
Alan
Alan
WTG Джош! :D
August 7, 2009 at 10:17am
Thea Brennan-Krohn
Thea Brennan-Krohn
Glad to hear you're a serious boy and not some infantile geek-father!
August 7, 2009 at 10:31am
The End of America

The End of America What touchstones of American life and culture will persist after the United States drops off the map? Free-market capitalism? Fast food and reality television? Basketball and hip-hop?

August 7, 2009 at 5:42am
Alan
Alan
And forget about opening a small business legally. The maze of permits, inspections, applications and fees are so complicated that you CANNOT ever be sure you're legal unless you can afford a full-time staff lawyer.
August 11, 2009 at 11:03am
Jerry Reil
Jerry Reil
All those things which exist under Natural Law.
August 16, 2009 at 1:08am
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When America disappears 100 or 500 or 1,000 years from now, it will be gone but not forgotten. As the world's leading military, economic, and cultural power since World War II, the United States will linger in the global gene pool and influence whatever comes next. ...
Charles
Charles
Actually, while some Christians may believe (and act on) the idea that they can do anything and only need to say "I believe" to get away with it, that is not actually what the gospel teaches - we are guaranteed eternal life, but first we have a conversation and some consequences to work things out.
August 21, 2009 at 9:39am
Terry Brookman
Terry Brookman
Another make believe religion will save nothing!
January 18 at 1:08pm
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August 6, 2009 at 7:31am
Alan
Alan
@Joel: as a person who was personally affected by Katrina, you might like to read this. It's a treatment of the lessons we failed to learn, from someone who was working on the inside. (link follows)

http://www.bernsteincrisismanagement.com/nl/crisis-manager-080831.html#cmu
August 6, 2009 at 6:13pm
The End of America

The End of America Could a totalitarian government ever take root in the United States?

August 6, 2009 at 3:51am
Celeste Federico Hayes
Celeste Federico Hayes
totalitarianism took root under Bush and those roots are quietly growing under Obama. read Naiomi Wolf's book The End of America for a good summary on the Bush admin's attack on our civil liberties and the constitution, and from there take note that not much has been done by the Obama admin to reverse the atrocious violations of the constitution in the previous admin. same federal power grab, different mask.

the answer to your question is yes...
August 10, 2009 at 5:14pm
Kirsten Tucker
Kirsten Tucker
all it takes is getting all the current senators and congressmen out of office. Have people write in their chosen members. Get together, state by state and reconstitute how people are voted in. We need to go back to voting in Senators not by popular election, but by the State Houses as it used to be. The prevention of totalitarianism, socialism... See More, comunism and so forth comes from US...the citizens. It is our duty...as well as a constitutional right, to remove the president from office, dissolve the congress and begin again. That is OUR responsibility, not whomever was elected. We can then go about, by stating that all current laws and policies remain in effect....we can go about electing proper people, reworking aspects of the election process and revamping laws. We can stop the insanity...instead of whining that they won't listen to us in Congress. Totalitarianism happens when the people ignore it machinations by those they have given power. Take that power away. Congress as a collective no longer represents the people in the manner which we demand. Our government must be reduced to its original parameters.
October 26, 2009 at 2:10pm
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Fascism's appeal in America wasn't entirely fictional. In the 1930s, the U.S., Italy, and Germany all ratcheted up central authority during and after the Great Depression. In 1933, before Mussolini invaded Ethiopia, President Franklin D. ...
Anne
Anne
Anyone know the reasons for these? http://bit.ly/b3FNy
August 8, 2009 at 3:53am
Alan Wild
Alan Wild
Interestingly there is little to no mention of the 2nd Amendment or private firearms ownership or their potential impact on any of the case scenarios.
August 14, 2009 at 9:57am
The End of America

The End of America Is it more likely that the United States will split into a bunch of self-governing regions or that the U.S. will become a totalitarian state?

August 5, 2009 at 12:17pm
Alan
Alan
It's the combination of American Exceptionalism, plus the apathy that accompanies the (relative) comfort in which we've lived for generations now...

...when those comforts are gone, and the reality hits that It Can Happen Here, people will remember how to get angry again. My principal fear is that, by that time, it will be far too late -- the frog is boiled.
August 5, 2009 at 8:14pm
Jerry Reil
Jerry Reil
a confederacy as part of the process for bigger changes
August 19, 2009 at 11:23pm
The End of America

The End of America Which state is most likely to secede from the USA? Vermont? Texas? Somewhere else?

August 5, 2009 at 6:51am
Terry Brookman
January 18 at 1:10pm
Terry Brookman
Terry Brookman
All of the Americas are being formed into zone two.
January 18 at 1:11pm
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America was designed to avoid these two extremes—to keep the states and the national government in balance. The United States will end when the equilibrium mandated by the Constitution no longer holds. ...
Keith
Keith
Instead of an outright breakup, a currency breakup might not be a bad thing. We have 12 Federal Reserve banks. Why not allow each to publish its own separately floating currency, providing finer-grained response to economic conditions in its own region? We finally have the computing power to make tracking each currency's value against the others a ... See Morecinch. With separately floating currencies, you wouldn't have a recovery in one part of the country (say, Silicon Valley) fortifying the dollar and increasing prices and wages before another part of the country (say, Utica) gets to catch up.

I know it swims against the monetary union tide, but let's face it: This is a ridiculously big country whose various regions have very different economies as well as different interests. Some places boom while others perpetually languish. It doesn't make sense to have only one monetary feedback control governing all of them at once when conditions are so wildly disparate.
August 7, 2009 at 7:49am
Alan
Alan
Tangible currency makes up such a piddling little fraction of the dollars in circulation, that I can't see how breaking up the Fed could make any difference.

You surely know that the vast, HUGE majority of the dollars in circulation are electronic -- they're just credit that is backed up by more credit.
August 7, 2009 at 8:22pm
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Josh
Josh
@Connor: Oh no, New Brunswick has seceded!
August 5, 2009 at 7:19pm
Eduardo Gonzalez
Eduardo Gonzalez
Looks like Puerto Rico will return to spanish rule in the same way China did with Hong Kong back in 1997
August 10, 2009 at 4:22pm
The End of America

The End of America Of the 144 scenarios listed in “Choose Your Own Apocalypse,” which do you think are most likely to contribute to the end of America?

August 4, 2009 at 2:17pm
Keith
Keith
My predictions: peak oil, suburban slums, rising sea levels, climate migration and isolation of elites. Not that a dozen other possibilities aren't also likely.
August 7, 2009 at 7:50am
Alan
Alan
The Scenario Engine, for want of a better term, seems to fail to take into account the inter-connected nature of the different scenarios.

For instance, our pending economic *and* ecological collapse have the same root causes -- overpopulation and overconsumption -- and will manifest in many of the same effects, such as severe shortages of food, fuel, and especially water.
August 7, 2009 at 8:35am
The End of America

The End of America Do you think America will end on account of climate change?

August 4, 2009 at 11:01am
Josh
Josh
David: People in Canada would want places to live. Even if the Great White North has more arable land than the U.S., America will have more urban areas with the infrastructure to support large populations.
August 5, 2009 at 3:32pm
Jacqueline Parrett Poisson
Jacqueline Parrett Poisson
No it won't be climate change think of all the other choices we have to end the world today. It's a sorry mess that does not have to be wish we would all get it together.
August 7, 2009 at 2:10pm