If Mexicans are not LAZY,then why is Mexico still considered to be a 3rd world country. A very large proportion of illegal drugs come through Mexico;and illegals are constantly trying to cross. Do the MATH 1+1 =2

Your Math is all wrong Mary Joan. One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. Mexico is a 3rd world country because of it's governments inability to effectively rule the country and distribute the wealth through the entire regime. Mexican government, politicians live in the mntns near Mexico City, the don't care what happens throughout the rest of ... See Morethe country because for the most part they're as corrupt as their police forces. What you've written is racist and i don't ever throw that word around. You need to do some research and figure out what's going on south of the border because your comments are absolutely disgusting.

If I had one American in my workplace that worked as hard as any of the Mexicans I've ever known I'd be much happier about management.

Yes and "he" (that would be the obama loser) is doing his best to trash, shame and ruin this country...I mean, HELLO, he went to other countries APOLOGIZING for this great nation...are you serious?? God help us until we can get this loser out of office and a brave, PATRIOTIC conservative back in! I know many thousands of people who may not have ... See Moreagreed with everything President Bush did (I personally voted for him twice, but then I'm a right-winger) but at least he never shamed us like obama already is...oh yeah, another BRILLIANT idea of the idiot: "Let's close GITMO"!! I pray for impeachment every day.

Nancy maybe you should pray for something like peace, I find you typical of a Repub-i-cant that is a sore loser you would rather be right and have this country fail than to actually pray the president and this country fairs well in this world.

Amen to that Shanna.

Somebody better for him. The worst President since Carter

you know nancy, believe it or not the US isn't perfect and owes many of nations apologies. Or are you from the school where parents are never wrong and surely NEVER dish out an "i'm sorry"? Get real and start watching international news that does NOT come on CBS, ABC, NBC.

I am a republican who believes the problems we face now would have come with ANY party we voted in. Maybe that comes with a certain sense of maturity that stems from being taught not to blame the mass for the few who act stupid.

Patriotism is neither conservative or liberal. When you can understand that, well then maybe a discussion can be achieved. Until then, that mentality you sport nancy, is quite dangerous to your health and well, any generation that's being influenced by it. ... See More

If you don't like the way the country is being runned, please Nancy-Shafer Watson, RUN for president. And when you're in office your first 100 days, please make a national announcement WITH a smile looking just as fresh and vibrant as you did before your first day, stating "This is a piece of cake. I can run this country with my eyes closed AND make the best decisions for everyone living here. And never fear great states of America...I am solving to everyone's liking the mess I've inherited. At the end of my term, we will be debt free, disease free, and in a position where we are allies to everyone because we've found flaws in this apology system and realized they owe us! we owe nothing."

When you do this nancy, I will gladly sell these magic beans and golden egg I have. Ive just been waiting for the best economic time to do so.

Thank you, Nicole!

lol jokes

C'mon people get over yourselves and your narcissistic needs to be heard. Apologizing to all these other nations is pure psycho babble. Why not extend apologies to the Millions of Native Americans who were displaced, enslaved and murdered just so we can all have our houses and neighborhoods. Apologizing to anyone else first is simply ludicrous. The real apologies should have been reserved for the first original nation in what we call the USA.

The only reason we are having health care reform is because of free trade (less jobs means less money for medicare) they want you the american tax payer to pay fo the losers. an get ready!

Failure to get health insurance could bring fines and possible jail time under a health care reform bill being considered by the U.S. House of Representatives.The reform bill being pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., mandates some kind of health insurance similar to state mandates for car insurance. (And watch who you call a loser, that will come back to haunt you, I guarantee).

You got that wright. Nancy Pelosi keep her mounth close. No mader what happbeen we are going to paying the Health Care Reform for years to come.

Fines are not acceptable. Those who can't afford HC at this time probably still won't be able to afford health care. So on top of the extra tax they'll have to pay as senate will not ok a bill that only taxes the wealthy, people will also have to pay a fine at the end of the fiscal year. If they fail to pay said fine they'll indeed have to face ... See Moreincarceration. This administration cares not about the poor or even average American. They care about control of 1/6th of the economy. America had a revolution under far less taxation than we're experiencing now, and the representation was as equally negligent. England is no closer than the absentee concern that exists in Washington D.C.

Had we the complacency and apathy prior to 1776 that we have today we'd indeed still be under British rule. Having no distractions and escapism in the form of TV, radio, computers and a credit system which allows us the ability to afford what we truly cannot would put us in the exact position of the patriots that existed on our soil all those years ago. We'd not have the ability to think about anything except for how royally we are being screwed.

Pelosi's Jet

<http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/c-32a/c32aphotos.html>
This Jet is the USAF C-32, Boeing 757, that MADAME PELOSI uses.
And the Democrats want to talk about Sarah's dress??? Conservatives! Are you out there? ... See More
Madame Pelosi wasn't happy with the small jet USAF C-20B, Gulfstream III, that comes with the Speaker's job...no, Madame Pelosi was aggravated that this little jet had to stop to refuel, so she ordered a Big Fat 200-seat USAF C-32, Boeing 757 jet that could get her back to California without stopping!
Many, many legislators walked by and grinned with glee as Joe informed everyone that Nancy 's Big Fat Jet costs us, the hard working American tax payers, thousands of gallons of fuel every week. Since she only works 3 days a week, this gas guzzling jet gets fueled and she flies home to California , cost to the taxpayers of about $60,000, one way! As Joe put it, 'Unfortunately we have to pay to bring her back on Monday night.' Cost to us another $60,000.
Folks, that is $480,000 per month and that is an annual cost to the taxpayers of $5,760,000. No wonder she complains about the cost of this war...it might cramp her style and she is styling, on my back and yours. I think of the military families in this country doing without and this woman, who heads up the most do-nothing Congress in the history of this country keeps fueling that jet while doing nothing.
Madame Pelosi wants you and me to conserve our carbon footprint. She wants us to buy smaller cars and Obama wants us to get a bicycle pump and air up our tires. These people are nuts.
Keep in mind the figures above do NOT include cost of plane or crew, just fuel!
One wonders what her total package cost us? And she wants to tax our IRA's

@ David Lee...if they did not make people get health insurance, what would stop people from just getting coverage when they got sick? And since they can no longer be denied for a pre-existing condition, why would any healthy person pay for insurance. Every single person the insurance companies covered would have a claim. It would bankrupt the system.

Yes Sir, get on the web and look-up the state of Maine(ME) and one can see just what this mess is going to be if PASSED??

I don't understand the question at Steven Spencer. Is this something new? Have people in this country finally been exposed to a new HC different from what they already have. If you get sick, don't have insurance and go to the hospital, you get a bill which you and only you have to pay back.

My questions are Why do you think the gov had to step up ... See Moreand get position of 1/6th of the economy before they could go ahead and stipulate certain regulations to health care companies which operate in their own country? Could they not have intervened and asserted themselves on our behalf knowing companies deny coverage on pre existing conditions prior to a health Care reform???

The government is going to bankrupt the system. You won't have to worry about citizens doing so.

Thanks Mr. Lee for having the smarts to cut straight to the TRUTH, which is now easy to see from your words, it's just that simple!!

If this HC reform is so wonderful, why arent the politicians lining up to participate? They have their own Rolls-Royce coverage for life (at our expense). These are the same people who can't even manage their dining hall and they are going to control my HC! Maybe they should work on getting medicare and medicaid to come under budget before they ... See Morepass this bill -- that I doubt they have even read. And I hate to sound like an Evil Conservative, but where in the Constitution does it state HC is a right? We live in America, not fantasy land. This is real money that B.O. is spending like it's monopoly money -- I cannot believe the debt he is going to leave to my children and future generations. AND if it so fabulous, why are the D trying so hard to get R support -- pass it on your own and stand behind it. You think you have the votes - do it. Be proud of your bill. Be proud of the debt you are incuring. Boy - I thought GWB was spending too much money! He actually is conservative in comparison.

Obama HC is Bulllard, this is not Russia, Germany, or England.

Mr. Sturgeon. Your rant about Pelosi plane situation is petty. It is purely a function of her home state location that she needs a big plane. The same commute problem would occur if the Speaker were from Alaska or Hawaii. By the way, you have yet to offer any alternative solution to the problem of uninsured Americans. I don't need a multi-... See Moreparagraph tirade. I want to have an exchange. I think that we have the power and ingenuity as a country to solve this problem. Many of our national healthcare stats are embarassing when compared to other countries. Just tell me what you think should happen to the uninsured?

http://www.TomBalderston.com
http://www.TomBalderston.WordPress.com
Read and you will get all the answers you will every need...

85% Americans have healthcare 15% do not, why is the 85% and their employers having to pay for this 15%? We have the best healthcare system in the world, why change it. Govenment has enough control, the govenment is giving unlegal mexicans healthcare right now when 15 % dont have it. Obama healthcare makes no sense, will bankrupt us. If you think ... See MoreI am going into a clinic full of drug users, hv postive surroundings, think again, Id rather stay home & die of swine flu. Or is this what they want Americans to do?

jonas...dont you get it, they dont give a damn what happens to the uninsured, until they are them.

Here's a solution for uninsured Americans. The administration( if they were actually concerned above all else) could take a percentage from the 85% of the stimulus that's still left over and insure the 'factored" 12 million uninsured Americans. They could do so without jeopardizing the current HC system. They could do so without conrolling 1/6th of the economy and they could do so without the possibility of putting the country into deeper debt. The Health Care reform is now bordering on an estimated 1.4 trillion dollar cost. Insuring 12 million American would cost no more than 60-70 Billion dollars.

If our government was Actually concerned with the well being of the less fortunate and uninsured they could participate in this charitable measure to help their own citizens. It's not charity they're concerned with, it's not giving or making sure the less fortunate are covered that they're concerned with. If insuring the uninsured was solely the agenda behind their bill, extracting funds from the stimulus and bailing out the less fortunate and unisnsured like they did the auto industry and banking systems would be
their first viable option. What should happen to the uninsured?? Honestly, most of them will remain uninsured. Only now, besides being uninsured they'll also be subject to fines and penalties for still not being able to afford coverage and most likely they'll be taxed like everyone else to maintain the reform as I highly doubt senate will pass any bill that only taxes the wealthy.
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Also Pelosis's plane is not petty, it's actually quite relevant. She was offered a smaller plane first but since it inconvienienced her to stop along the way home the teax-payers are subject to her having a bigger plane which consumes more gas at a faster rate of speed. The reason it's relevant as opposed to petty is it's just a small example of how much the government really relates to anyone suffering with the current economic crisis. It's one small example amidst a sea of countless waste and spending which washes along the shores or negligence. Your congress feels they are all powerful sir, and for some disgusting, ridiculous reason, you still support them. Good night Jonas

http://www.TomBalderston.WordPress.com Please go on this link and put alittle time in(reading) and you all will be enlighten!!But you can keep your head in the sand-raising head occasionally to bash-BUSH??

"Forcing" citizens to buy something, health care or anything, is problematic even if premiums are based on income.

Jimmy ...Balderston is a religious, Glenn Beck Butt kissing, chemical selling, corporation worshiping blogger who doesnt cite any source other than other conserv-a-nut biased websites, so all of what he said amounted to about a washed out tea bagger party on the capital steps.... spare me. ...and bush pushed through the stimulus and left the country a wreck, glad he is having a nice vacation, while the rest of the country has gone to hell.

Your spared, At best you did look that's more than most will do!! Please work on your"hater" thoughts, more good ideas, ok? Thanks for your time!

We are one human race. Only one. The only one we know about so far. Eschew media who monger hate.

because stupid is as stupid does

Wanna bet when the bill gets passed there won't be any of the fearsome realities imagined by fear mongers? And 85% Americans really do not have health care presently. It would be nice; but it's false.

If the bill pases the senate, And everyone has insurance, Does that mean we don't have to pay for medicare anymore that would be savings for us. Do we have pay for the special personal injury insurance on our auto insurance. that would be savings for us.

Mr. Sturgeon. I have to admit that I had a similar reaction to the Balderston websites that Ms. Mueller did, but she expressed herself a bit more flamoyantly than I would have. I do wonder about what has been described as the" incohate anger" of some sections of the electorate. To me, it seems like simple sour grapes - hey I've been there, I lived through the Bush years, Contract for America, Dick Army, Tom Delay, etc.. But this isn't just sour grapes is it? Now it's Obama is a terrorist, a Muslim, a Nazi, a socialist, a Communist. The whole kitchen sink right? Well, he's none of those things. I read through some of Balderston's website and respctfully tried to absorb the message. I'll keep working on it. In the meantime I have some info too. It is a little dated, 2005 I think, but it is a lecture by a linguistics professor named George Lakoff given at UC San Diego. Lakoff has helped me understand the cultural divide between the left and right and he has done so via the exploration of the metaphors each side uses to develop their world view. This lecture tries to hit the high notes of a book he wrote called Moral Politics. It's about an hour long. There are no trick here. He presents himself as a liberal and does not pretend to be anything else. The crux of his work on metaphors is that conservatives display a "strict father" view of the world while liberals have a "nurturant parent" worldview. I found it interesting. So if you have any interest in how this liberal (me) thinks about politics (even if out of civic duty), Lakeoff's explanations are helpful.

Here's the youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM ... See More

Peace....

Oh I just love that sign!

Cao is a hero !

1) Obama will use reconciliation if he can't get the 60 votes needed to stop a GOP filibuster

2) Senator Lieberman is threatening to filibuster health care reform, If Joe Lieberman filibusters health care, we will support his opponent

3) MEDICARE, MEDICAID, K 12, POSTAL SERVICE AND SOCIAL SECURITY ARE ALL PUBLIC SERVICE... Read More... See More

4) Republicans, go cry on the corner

5) Jay Rockefeller : Health insurance companies are rapacious

The public option would be just that: an option. No one would be forced to get coverage under the public plan. American public and physicians support the creation of a public plan. The public option, being a nonprofit, wouldn’t have to worry about rewarding shareholders.

God bless America and Obamacare.

Tell your senator to vote for PUBLIC OPTION. We can make history in this country.

The republicans are losers, they spent 1 trillion dollars in Iraq. NOW OUR TAXES WILL BE USED TO SAVE LIVES

We need public option now !!

Thanks for input Jonas, I to am reading your man, But I already see a problem?? Some items are not that "Black or White", many items are more "GREY", and that has been my problem with all this HATE I see all the time, plus the LABELing of people/groups etc?? Pointing a finger at BUSH and saying -same/same -me/republican, just is't true I have ... See Morealways VOTED the PERSON not these "LABELS"!! I can not remember the last time my expectations of the Congress has been met??No amount of labeling with not improve the fact, "WE ARE BROKE"??? Your thoughts?

Mr. Sturgeon, I hear you on the labeling and I agree, but I think Lakoff is not interested in labeling as much as explaining the world views of conservatives and liberals. The" labels" he comes up with are actually a method of explaining the way traditionally conservative or liberal platforms hang together. The family metaphors he dicerns from our ... See Morepublic life are easy to understand. I am so happy to hear you say that things are GREY. I couldn't agree with you more, but I feel that many on the far right (and the far left) have trouble accepting that. Here's how Lakoff might apply his two differing family metaphors to the health care debate. The President, as the "father of the country" in the nurturing parent model (the liberal model) would never let any of his children (American citizens) suffer unecessarily and thus the notion of extending a hand of support to our less fortunate children is clear. Just as I love both my sons equally, I would never let either one of them suffer unecessarily even if that one were irresponsible. Would I like having to bail him out? No. But I would do it, because that is what parents do. Under the "Strict Father" model (the conservative model), the President, as the father of the country should not tolerate or encourage irresponsible behavior. Everybody knows it's stupid not to have health insurance and so if you need it you go get a job and get your life in order and take care of yourself and your family. As much as it might be difficult for the strict father to be so stern, his irresponsible need to learn a lesson. Life is hard, there is no free lunch.

You wrote, "WE ARE BROKE." Well, there are tough times out there. I'm not an economist, but I do know that there are bright economists on both sides of this issue. Choose your poison. How can we know for sure until we try. I'm just afraid that the children (US citizens) will be harmed unnecessarily, unless mom and dad stop fighting about what to do and just do something.

Hello John. Just want to say hello! Lou Leo

Jonas, I spent 2yrs-USArmy, 8yrs-USNavy, 20yrs-DOD, I am NOT telling you this to brag, but I have lived behind/in this thing called government! The way this Congress and WH is going about this HC bill is a "Joke" on the American people!! This bill when you raise the hood, is't about HC! Yes, I am not a heartless SOB, we need alot of improvements in... See More the programs already in place, Not this POWER-GRAB!Plus the founding fathers wanted, as many problems-addressed at the lowest level First!! This must be from the bottom--up-cure!!

One day a man saw a old lady, stranded on the side of the road, but even in the dim light of day, he could see she needed help. So he pulled up in front of her Mercedes and got out. His Pinto was still sputtering when he approached her.

Even with the smile on his face, she was worried. No one had stopped to help for the last hour or so. Was he going to hurt her? He didn't look safe; he looked poor and hungry.

He could see that she was frightened, standing out there in the cold. He knew how she felt. It was that chill which only fear can put in you. ... See More

He said, 'I'm here to help you, ma'am. Why don't you wait in the car where it's warm? By the way, my name is Bryan Anderson.'

Well, all she had was a flat tire,
But for an old lady, that was bad enough. Bryan crawled under the car looking for a place to put the jack, skinning his knuckles a time or two. Soon he was able to change the tire. But he had to get dirty and his hands hurt.

As he was tightening up the lug nuts, she rolled down the window and began to talk to him. She told him that she was from St. Louis and was only just passing through. She couldn't thank him enough for coming to her aid.

Bryan just smiled as he closed her trunk. The lady asked how much she owed him. Any amount would have been all right with her She already imagined all the awful things that could have happened had he not stopped.
Bryan never thought twice about being paid.
This was not a job to him. This was helping someone in need, and God knows there were plenty, who had given him a hand in the past. He had lived his whole life that way, and it never occurred to him to act any other way.

He told her that if she really wanted to pay him back, the next time she saw someone who needed help, she could give that person the assistance they needed, and Bryan added, 'And think of me..'

He waited until she started her car and drove off. It had been a cold and depressing day, but he felt good as he headed for home, disappearing into the twilight.

A few miles down the road the lady saw a small cafe. She went in to grab a bite to eat, and take the chill off before she made the last leg of her trip home. It was a dingy looking restaurant. Outside were two old gas pumps. The whole scene was unfamiliar to her. The waitress came over and brought a clean towel to wipe her wet hair. She had a sweet smile, one that even being on her
Feet for the whole day couldn't erase. The lady noticed the waitress was nearly eight months pregnant, but she never let the strain and aches change her attitude. The old lady wondered how someone who had so little could be so giving to a stranger. Then she remembered Bryan .

After the lady finished her meal, she paid with a hundred dollar bill. The waitress quickly went to get change for her hundred dollar bill, but the old lady had slipped right out the door. She was gone by the time the waitress came back. The waitress wondered where the lady could be. Then she noticed something written on the napkin.

There were tears in her eyes when she read what the lady wrote: 'You don't owe me anything. I have been there too. Somebody once helped me out, the way I'm helping you. If you really want to pay me back, here is what you do: Do not let this chain of love end with you.'

Under the napkin were four more $100 bills.

Well, there were tables to clear, sugar bowls to fill, and people to serve, but the waitress made it through another day. That night when she got home from work and climbed into bed, she was thinking about the money and what the lady had written. How could the lady have known how much she and her husband needed it? With the baby due next month, it was going to be hard....

She knew how worried her husband was, and as he lay sleeping next to her, she gave him a soft kiss and whispered soft and low, 'Everything's going to be all right. I love you, Bryan Anderson.'

There is an old saying......'What goes around comes around.'

Very touching. Reagan would tell that kind of story too. I'm familiar with the concept of the old saying and I believe it has value. What prompted you to share this particular story? I'm a bit confused.

By the way, here another view of the Pelosi plane story:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_nancy_pelosi_order_up_a_200-seat.html

Reagan and I are to be classified as being able to tell touching stories, your put-down point is what?

Reagan did a hell of a lot more than tell stories. He commanded respect and held the office of the President in the highest regard. If you're comparing Jimmy to "The Great Communicator" it can only be because you see he has wisdom in his words, and fortitude which far surpasses your own. Fact's mean nothing to these people Jimmy. You're arguing ... See Morewith someone who cites a man who explains politics by the 'labels' and 'metaphors' they use.

You might as well be arguing with someone who's referencing their opinion from fortune tellers at fairs.

Guys, I'm sorry, truly. You totally misunderstood my comment to Mr. Sturgeon. Perhaps it was a bit flip, but I am familiar with the notion of "what comes around goes around." I just don't understand the context of including it here. Except perhaps, Mr. Lee, that it may be a "metaphor" for something. Metaphor wasn't invented by liberals. Reagan ... See Morewas a master at metaphor. How does the story enlighten? I'm trying to understand. By the way there were "facts" to the Pelosi story that you apparently missed. Facts mean a great deal. The "fortune teller" metaphor you used (see everybody uses them because they work) suggests that you think that George Lakoff (the guy I referenced in the youtube link) isn't using facts to determine his conclusions. Indeed, your metaphor "Fourtune Tellers at Fairs" is a very compelling strike against intellectuals by which you are saying professors at universities are really simply fooling around and don't know what they are talking about. Actually, they are not fooling around and you don't get to become a professor unless you know what you are talking about. Mr. Lakoff is a cognitive scientist who is very concerned with facts. Politics on the presidential level has less to do with "facts" and more to do with emotion.The fact is that Mr. Sturgeon introduced a story into this discussion, but he did not clearly indicate why he was introducing a story. I read the story carefully and I found it touching. I think that sounded too feminine and perhaps too emotional and thus it became an insult. The story is touching, but how does it move this discussion forward? I missed it. I did look up Bryan Anderson, the Iraq vet who suffered sever injuries there, but I'm missing your point. He looks like he has an inspirng story and conquered much in the face of adversity. Is that a model you are promoting. If so, you'l have no complaint from me. But does this mean that those souls who cannot immediately find inspiration in the face of adversity like Bryan shall be condemned to suffering and bankruptcy because of our HC system. Can the "what comes around goes around" concept be applied to nations too or just individuals?

I guess you misunderstood me also,"Charity begins at Home"! We the people do not NEED to be Made, from the Federal level to care for all this "HC" cure!--Plus there is plenty of programs already in place to provide a cure for most of the HC problems! I also think you didn't read my earlier post on my 30 years in the government? Big rule understood... See More by us peons is; always handle your problems at the lowest level possible-first! Never-ever involve higher-ups with-anything one doesn't have to! Why hasn't all this work on HC been directed at all the programs in place to make them work-One BIG reason common sense-those government frameworks are already in "PLACE"?? The money "SAFED" on this one thing alone would "PAY" for the "REAL" uninsured of 27 million!!

Jonas the Lakoff material is interesting. For people who read anything of opposing views and like to see other people's points of view explained, so thanks.

This so very true Jimmy

It's really comical to see all these folks-only read "WHAT" they want to read-"Only see or hear/read" what they want to??????LOL

amen

Obama did not go to make a speach becaise it did not fit his apologetics tour. Maybe on this one he was, more likely some on his staff was, to tell him it would not be a good idea to apologize to the Germans for the United States tearing down that wall. No glory for President Narsictic. then we wont go. This could not be a speach filled if "I" words.

Im still trying to understand why people with no insurance don't want it! How stupid is that? What if you break a toe? Who pays for it to be reset? Me and others who pay into the health care system, that's who. President Obama is on the right track with his health care plans and finally so is Congress. It's about time-get it done, sign the bill, and move on to the next big challenge in this country: crime which is out of control.

Midnite, actually you don't pay for it. It become the debt of the uninsured patient. The only ins you're paying for if not your own is that of the illegal immigrant. You pay into civic taxes which have an allowance for just such patients. Stop arguing on behalf of false information. If you think your gov should be in charge of 20% of the economy when they can't even manage the Dept of Energy and they've been doing that for thirty years, you're dumber than you look.

There is a name for the disaster the Obama Administration and Congress are pulling us into. It's called the Cloward-Pivan Strategy and they are in the final stages of their plan. And for all you haters, at least look it up before posting your insults so you can know what you are talking about

Why wasn't Obama at the Berlin Wall celebration?