I know what a lot of kiddies will be thinking "whats Hyper?" well for thouse of you not versed in Sonic & Knuckles 3 I shall take my time to tell you.

Ok back in the days of the Megadrive (Genisis for our US brothers) Sonic games there were the Chaos Emaralds "Yes, Yes we know about them" to true, then you would know that they enabled Sonic to transform into his golden form Super Sonic, what you may not have know was that tucked away on the Floating Island (Angel Island) in S&K3 in Sky Sanctuary was the master emarald chamber with Seven Pedistols with nothing on them just The Big gem "the master emarald" in the center, now getting all of the Seven Chaos emerald (ezzie pezzie) and going into mushroom hill zone after compleating Sonic 3 with all the emeralds, afte a tiny bit of running you come to a Cut-sean of Knuxs coming outta a room looking round and then sealing the room off before leaving, now you unseal the room and go in, in there is a Super Ring (50 rings) if you have all the chaos emralds you will see that the ring flashes a multitude of colours, jumping into it causes you to warp to Sky Sanctary Zone's master emerald chamber, when your there your Chaos Emeralds will leave you and drop into the big emerald that were once clear, once that happens they will go solid gray also you WILL LOSE YOUR ABILITY TO TURN SUPER SONIC, so i surgest beating Doomsday Zone first, one you've compleated the game just go back to the level select and chose Mushroom Hill zone act1 and just go where Knuxs came out of.

Now In the Emrald Chamber your Emralds will leave you and drop into a corosponding Big one there called Super Emralds, now the fun begins, you can pick which Emrald you want first by jumping on them, Don't go for the Master Emrald as it does Jack S**t for ya. Bit of advise the Gray Super Emrald is a pain untill you know the lay out of the map and then it's still hard.

Once you have collected all the Super Emralds you sould see this Msg "Sonic Has colected all the Super Emralds", "now you can be Hyper Sonic" super sweet, Know that Hyper Sonic is faster than Super Sonic you can tell by the fact that he leaves three after image copies of himself behind to play catch up also he has a double jump and as a added bonus using double jump causes everything badnick wise on screen to go pop without touching them.

Knuckles also can turn Super Aswell as Hyper, though the Hyper Form isn't much diffrent from his Super form other than the After Image and incresed speed. He's also PINK.

Tails also can turn Super but not Hyper, tails need all Super Emralds just to turn Super, but don't laugh yet, it turns Tails into an Overlord, minons my friends Minons, he gets them to do his dirty work for him, 4 Super Flickies suround him and attack whatever evil gets in his way, I know your probaly thinking "Flickies WTF have you been smoking" just remember Cheese, Creams little Chao friend, only diffrences is the Flickies know what to do with out you going out of your way to tell them, OVERLORD.

anyway if you have made it this far without falling asleep you get a Cookie.

Now back to the point of this Topic, I want people to place there say in here if they want to beable to play through the main game as Sonic, Tails or Knuckles again in upcoming titles in there Super or Hyper forms after collecting the Emralds, place your votes with Either "IN GAME" or "END OF GAME" i'll use this as a potiton to get them back.

in game definatly, ooo btw u forgot hyper knuckles can make earthquake like things when he glides into a wall, boom all badniks on screen dead, a bit more of a pain to do than hyper sonics tbh :(

Whats wrong with both? with S3&K, there was the special super sonic doomsday zone boss, as well as the super forms in game. maybe super avaliable in game, the hyper for the ending? Definatly want them to bring back Super sonic as a playable whenever character

Sh!t thanks for that I compleatly forgot he could do that.

no matter how much u want it, it still wont happen haha, they are mean, n it would jus be hard to implement within the game without pple complaining about limitations like, "super sonic can fly the game dusnt let me this is shit!" or stuff like that haha, n yer hyper knux is kwl, not that much faster, but wow the climbing speed is like :D, haha i jus replayed S3&K today lol

super transformations seem to be mostly hedgehog only right now and i doubt we'll see hyper forms for a long time. I can understand them not putting super sonic into normal stages of a 3D game but couldn't he be used in games like unleashed or the rush and rival games? after they are much more similar to the genesis sonic were most of us discovered super sonic (sometimes as early as emerald hill or chemical plant zone for the really good) or would he just be too fast or control like a glorified tension boosting sonic?

obviously ditto for super shadow and super silver.

second that!

Super Sonic is implemented in the end of most, if not all, Sonic games, even if it's an optional ending. Ultimately, I think what they could do is allow Super Sonic to rein on the last level, then have Hyper Sonic fight the final boss. However, this would require a few stipulations:

1. Hyper Sonic would have to be much less broken than when he first came out. Double jump, and *boom* death? Hardly worth bringing back, it takes all the fun out of fighting a boss.
2. The storyline would have to include Tails, Knuckles, and Angel Island. Knuckles and Tails both have empowered forms, and you need the Master Emerald from Angel Island to gain access to Hyper Form.
3. One hell of a plot. Maybe they should try bringing Nazo out from the scrap pile and finally make a game on fighting him. I know I'd get the game, so long as they don't do the DBZ rip-off from Youtube. Ultimately though, as long as they have a wicked ass plot to sustain the game, anything can work.

They may or may not also include optional play of other characters, such as Knuckles, Tails, or even Shadow or Silver (could you imagine either of them as Hypers? One is already deemed the ultimate lifeform, one has incredible psychic powers...holy hell). But in all seriousness, I doubt Hypers will ever come back to gameplay. =(

Hyper Transformations may not have been brought back because the flashing colours could cause seizures in people with photosensitive epilipsy.
(Thats right, i do my research, though i dont think i spelled it correctly).

But they should realy bring back Super Transformations in normal gameplay.
It will be difficult to get the gameplay right. Especially for Shadow, whose wide variety of Chaos Powers will be difficult to programme into a single character.

Also, i'd give almost anything to play as Hyper Shadow. (but it needs to be done perfectly)

I think Super Transformations (Do people really care about Hyper that much) should be saved until after you've beaten the game... The way they do their Super forms now makes sense... Can you imagine how hard it would be to control Super form in the Next-Gen games in regular levels?

BUT

If they did decide to put them in-game, you should have to beat the game first to have it unlocked... Then you can go back and play the stages with Super forms unlocked and can just decimate the game.

Ah, yes, the Hyper forms having those flashing sensations. I forgot about those. Well, if they toned it down to either being white constantly, or made the flashing colors much less frequent (say every 1-2 seconds the color changes instead of hitting the entire rainbow twice in a second). Hyper forms only got alot of "hype" because they were broken as hell though, so maybe we don't truly need them back.

Hype...haha I made a funny. ;o

Well, bring Hyper back, but not use the Super Emeralds. Why not just use the Master Emerald itself? I mean, the Chaos Emeralds simply "grew" with power? We need an approximation for the power increase. Double doesn't seem enough or practical. Just use the M.E. and leave the S.E.'s out of it...

As for redesigning the Hyper Mode - toning down the brightness of the colors would help, but I'd like to leave the quick changing to stay. 1-2 seconds seems to long, so I'd rather have to hit the "CYMK" rainbow twice a second instead. :D

Lastly, an EPIC storyline is in order. But, no time travel please. That sort of stuff hurts my head. @o@

Proper playable super form in the game would be awesome, maybe as a separate storyline.

sum evil guy cms, makes the emeralds a bit less powerful, u cn turn super, but ur not INSANLY fast, jus much faster than sonic, maybe a gauge so u cnt fly forever, whos knows, if they put sum thought into it they could make it work! i dunno im jus brainstornming

I think that after you beat the final boss, you unlock super mode. This will allow you to use Super Sonic in the regular stages and will allow you to reach areas couldn't get to before. These areas would hold secerts and easter eggs. You can either look for those, or pretent to play through the stage as Sonic, even through you are Super Sonic.

You know, after seeing the first cutscene in Sonic Unleashed, I thought Sega was bringing him back :(

The only reason they're not bringing Hyper back is the same reason for not bringing Mighty, Bomb and Heavy, Nack, Bean, Super Knuckles(Well technically it was supposed to be him in Sonic Heroes), Hyper Knuckles, Super Tails, and probably even Big.

And that reason is?

How should i know?

Personally, I think they'd only be able to properly implement SS into the 2D games (handhelds). In the 3D ones, it's just too annoying to do it in the reg. stages, although it would be cool to see them do it at around the final 1-2 stages before the boss. And I agree with Jay's first post......Whatever they do, I just hope it doesn't end up being like that DBZ ripoff on YouTube.....Super Sonic III? Seriously?....And the character designs....ick.

EDIT: When I say "character designs", I mean for Sonic's "other forms". The ones the creators of the DBZ ripoff made.

that would be cool too use super sonic as a playable whenever character, but maybe they dropped hyper sonic, because there's already super sonic, i mean sega cant just give sonic any form they want, they cant just say "oh lets give sonic a dragon form" no that would just ruin sonic

Technically anyone should be able to harness the power of 7 chaos emeralds to increase their power and become invulnerable for short amounts of time. However it doesn't necessarily make one "super". Knuckles and Tails for instance can harness the power of the 7 Chaos Emeralds, but in my opinion they are not real super forms and are nowhere near the power of the super forms of Sonic, Shadow and Silver, who are really the only ones with true super forms. The fact that the appearances of Knuckles and Tails don't change as much as Sonic, Shadow and Silver proves it.

I'd say that Hyper forms are completely non-canon, only achieveable through combining Sonic3 & Knuckles. The same goes for any other transformation that appears in spin-offs/archie etc.

I also wonder if humans can transform using the emeralds as well, cause technically they should, but like minor characters they would probably become more powerful but nowhere near as powerful as Super Sonic or Super Shadow. In that case, what would Eggman turn into?

Eggman doesn't turn anything. Perhaps being a gearhead (the robiticist version) makes him incompatible?

He's gathered all 7 before...And was able to use them to power final boss mechs or monsters whenever he gets his hands on them. I am, of course, referring to SA onwards when I say that.

No one has ever harnessed the power of the chaos emeralds apart from Sonic, Shadow, Silver and various final bosses after SA.
You got to check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jU4ADJzpfU
IT'S OVER 9000XD!!!

Both in-game & end-of-game! & Definately bring back the lost super & hyper forms too!! =D

@ John: I counted Eggman giving Chaos Emeralds to Chaos and setting them into the Eclipse Cannon, as well as a few others that I think he did but I can't remember. But thanks anyway, lol.

@ Topic: Once again, I stress that this would be very hard to do properly in the 3d games, except maybe as a Final Stage thing.

2d games are wide open for this.

Ok All I want is for an open world Sonic Game where you can run everywhere on the world of Sonic. With act's in them to unlock further Stages. Then they should also bring back the retro mini-games. Hyper would be great to have as well as the other forms of Tails and Knux.

Oh and for all infomation. Ultra Sonic only exist in the Comics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCJN1uMlmTg

silver is the weakest super form. choas emeralds just enhance your powers. knuckles is really powerful. tails cannot turn super with just choas emeralds he needs hyper emeralds. because he cannot use choas energy as well. but truly silver should have not been able to use choas control on sonic 06 but he might have known how to turn super. but to use choas control one would have to know about choas powers alot more than he did. knuckles super is powerful it went hand to hand with sonics. knuckles does change significantlyand so does tails. sonic heroes just screwed them. and sonic knuckles and tails would be the most powerful characters in the series due to there powers.

I see too much old-school bias in your response. No offence but to me Sonic Heroes is more canon than Sonic & Knuckles due to the fact that Sonic Heroes had a proper cutscene-based storyline wheras Sonic & Knuckles hardly had any dialog. I still believe that Knuckles being able to turn Super in S & K is nothing more than a gameplay thing, just so that Knuckles could match Sonic as a rival for the game, and is not canon. My point is proved by the fact that Knuckles never goes Super ever again in the franchise (and don't you dare tell me about the Archie version), not to mention that it's not even Knuckles to turn super and fight Robotnik in the Doomsday stage of S & K. In Sonic Heroes Sonic lends Tails and Knux some of his own energy so that they could share his abilities for a while. Face it Knux fans, Knuckles is nothing more than a sidekick to Sonic anymore. His time has passed, and Shadow reigns supreme as Sonic's arch-rival. Besides, come to think of it, Super powers are not meant to be given to any odd character in the series; they should be character specific, such as only meant for Sonic and Shadow (and I still believe that they are related) so that it's more valid. Something everyone has access to is not cool.
As for Silver's Super form, I think it is quite powerful if you know how to use it, in fact I think it might even be slightly supperior to the super forms of Sonic and Shadow.
Tails and Knuckles are nowhere near as powerful as Shadow; he could take them both down with ease... Tails just has the ability to fly and while he is smart, he's nowhere near a great fighter as Shadow, and while Knuckles might be one of the strongest characters in the series (along with Omega, Big, Vector and Storm) he's a total knucklehead. Therefore the skills of Tails and Knuckles complete each other and are still hardly a match for those of Sonic or Shadow.

you have absolutely no idea what your talkiong about. it wasn't just for gameplay reasons. and also i will tell you that the archie comics is backed by sega. knuckles is the strongest characters and knows the chaos abilities more than anyone. silvers no matter how you use it is weak compared to sonics or shadow. and you seem all about the new school crap. sonic and knuckles couldn't have much for cutscenes. there isn't enough space on the game's cartridge. and the hardware would not be able to support many cutscenes. and you seem like one of those fan boys. i agree tails is no as good as a fighter as shadow but tails with the proper motivation could easily beat shadow. and knuckles fighting skills surpasses that of shadow. and does not turn super. and knuckles and shaodw came before shadow in the series. they should not have let silver turn super. his telekinis wouldn't stop sonic, shadow, or knuckles when there even in their regualr forms. not to mention silvers speed is like a honda civic. in what world could they ever compete. sonic can go lightspeed. they just decided not to let knuckles turn super ever again. thats like saying piccolo never went super namek again because he coulodn't. get some facts before you reply. sonic and knuckles have the best fights. shadow never beat sonic. sonic usually beats shadow or they have a tie. knuckles beat sonic. sonic beat knuckles. but usually they have ties. like i said sonic, knuckles, and tails are thee most powerful characters in the series.