If You Liked Zeitgeist You'll Love This
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Shayne wroteon October 10, 2008 at 5:22pm
everyone thats in this group pretty much seems to agree that everyone should see zeitgeist well for those who don't already know there is another film that is a lot like zeitgeist, it covers similar issues and others that zeitgeist doesn't even mention, it is called Esoteric Agenda and everyone especially those who have watched and not only enjoyed but learned something from zeitgeist really needs to watch the film,
this is the link to watch the film
http://video.google.com/vi
this is the link to download it with your torrent client
http://btjunkie.org/torren
this is the link to watch the film
http://video.google.com/vi
this is the link to download it with your torrent client
http://btjunkie.org/torren
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Anthony wroteon October 10, 2008 at 6:18pm
Check out this song http://www.youtube.com/wat
I dont know who these guys are, but the video was passed on to me with the "PAY IT FORWARD" premise. (every one person who likes it pass it on to two people) After hearing it im going one urther than that and passing it on to the world. WATCH IT IM SURE YOU'LL ENJOY!
I dont know who these guys are, but the video was passed on to me with the "PAY IT FORWARD" premise. (every one person who likes it pass it on to two people) After hearing it im going one urther than that and passing it on to the world. WATCH IT IM SURE YOU'LL ENJOY!
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Chris replied to Shayne's poston October 10, 2008 at 7:37pm
hey mate. thanks for that. will give it a watch tonight :)
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Phil wroteon October 10, 2008 at 10:18pm
That was absolutely breath-taking. I thank you from the bottom of my soul for bringing this video to my attention.
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Dave wroteon October 11, 2008 at 7:28am
I went back and watched this lecture by Ian Xel Lungold for the third time last week. It gets better every time you watch it. It really is true that expanding your consciousness expands your awareness as well as your comprehension.
http://video.google.com/vi
http://video.google.com/vi
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Berlin wroteon November 7, 2008 at 5:22am
great movie some new information in that movie
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Thuto wroteon November 7, 2008 at 6:29am
Esoteric Agenda also good, it is just this whole 2012 end days prophecy stuff that blows it off course. I researched 2012 for about a year and ended up reading the Urantia book, another new age religion which obviously is just another entrapment for mankind.
What I think the problem with us people is that the older something is, the more we think it is authentic and real, but forgetting that as a specie, we can only get smarter. Meaning that today's knowledge and wisdom is better and much more real than the knowledge of those that used to think that the earth is flat. The Mayan people did not know half of the things we know today, and what they could not explain they concluded as destruction. My point is, i will not place my fate upon stars standing still in the sky.
What I think the problem with us people is that the older something is, the more we think it is authentic and real, but forgetting that as a specie, we can only get smarter. Meaning that today's knowledge and wisdom is better and much more real than the knowledge of those that used to think that the earth is flat. The Mayan people did not know half of the things we know today, and what they could not explain they concluded as destruction. My point is, i will not place my fate upon stars standing still in the sky.
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Jacob wroteon November 7, 2008 at 10:26am
well, i take it you dont know a lot about the mayan civilization.
http://www.youtube.com/wat
http://www.youtube.com/wat
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Berlin wroteon November 7, 2008 at 4:34pm
yeh the 2012 is a bit "out there'' but it has new information such as floride, codex, aspartame, global warming. but this isn't really easy to understand. so if you guys wanna watch Esoteric Agenda you should watch Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum first.
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Angie wroteon November 7, 2008 at 9:01pm
Watched it a while back and I agree it is excellent! I feel more comfortable telling people to watch it than Zeitgeist because it isn't as well known and Zeitgeist has a stigma that some people freak over. A guy from Australia just posted in the group that he just mentioned he was watching Zeitgeist and a friend dropped him! Religion has a lot of people really bad. So sad :(.
Post #12
Berlin wroteon November 8, 2008 at 3:00am
its try spread this movie out as much as u can since it covers more information that zeitgeist doesn't. i guess to put zeitgeist and esoteric Agenda together it will be like 4-6 hours long
Post #13
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Jacob wroteon November 8, 2008 at 4:44am
something that i also found interesting was the interview alex jones had with aaron russo
http://video.google.com/vi
http://video.google.com/vi
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Berlin replied to Jacob's poston November 8, 2008 at 5:56am
yeh i seen that a long time a ago. teh funny thing about this interview is that alex jones voice sounds diff to his radio show voice
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Thuto replied to Jacob's poston November 8, 2008 at 6:44am
"i take it you dont know a lot about the mayan civilization"
Hi Jacob, just one thing about the mayan people that you might have not known, - "they did not believe in the end". That also goes for a few more ancient Mesoamerican civilizations that existed in Mexico, Brazil, Croatia and so forth.
I will not dispute the fact that they dealt with sophisticated mathematical and astronomical systems that even today we are still trying to decode, but so did the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Indians, Hebrews, Greeks to mention a few. Man lusts the end of time for he finds it hard to believe that he is just part of one generation out of thousands if not millions that have been and yet to come. With every generation that has been, people have always believed somehow that they are living in the time of revelations, well, lol, it's not going to happen. Climates will change, volcanoes will erupt, Tsunamis will rage the coast-lines, but life will still continue.
Well Back to the Mayan, actually i do know quite a bit, and the clip you posted is not really about the Mayan Civilization, it's about a specific interpretation about the Mayan people which with many archeologists has been proven to be incorrect.
If you ever get time, read some of Mr. Carlos Barrios work, he is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. "His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam tribe."
Believing in this whole 2012 end times stuff is the same as believing that Jesus would come flying out of the sky sometime in the future to redeem all Christians.
Hi Jacob, just one thing about the mayan people that you might have not known, - "they did not believe in the end". That also goes for a few more ancient Mesoamerican civilizations that existed in Mexico, Brazil, Croatia and so forth.
I will not dispute the fact that they dealt with sophisticated mathematical and astronomical systems that even today we are still trying to decode, but so did the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Indians, Hebrews, Greeks to mention a few. Man lusts the end of time for he finds it hard to believe that he is just part of one generation out of thousands if not millions that have been and yet to come. With every generation that has been, people have always believed somehow that they are living in the time of revelations, well, lol, it's not going to happen. Climates will change, volcanoes will erupt, Tsunamis will rage the coast-lines, but life will still continue.
Well Back to the Mayan, actually i do know quite a bit, and the clip you posted is not really about the Mayan Civilization, it's about a specific interpretation about the Mayan people which with many archeologists has been proven to be incorrect.
If you ever get time, read some of Mr. Carlos Barrios work, he is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. "His home was in Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam tribe."
Believing in this whole 2012 end times stuff is the same as believing that Jesus would come flying out of the sky sometime in the future to redeem all Christians.
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Jacob replied to Thuto's poston November 8, 2008 at 10:16am
Thuto, im not implying the world will end in 2012. what im trying to show to you/say to you is that the mayans said there will be a major shift in conciousness. this is from the video:
The mayan calander is the only calander known to be based on galactic cycles. The Mayans claimed that they created this calander in order to monitor the light coming from the centre of the Galaxy, and how it affects our DNA. We now know through the work of Fritz Popp that DNA not only absords light but also emits light. DNA also appears to be the bridge between our physical and etheric bodies. Modern sience now realizes that our DNA directly reflects our conciousness, making it possible to willfully change our DNA.
if you consider this, then if our earth aligns with the centre of our Galaxy wich it will on dec 21, 2012, it is highly probabile that it will have on effect on our conciousness
The mayan calander is the only calander known to be based on galactic cycles. The Mayans claimed that they created this calander in order to monitor the light coming from the centre of the Galaxy, and how it affects our DNA. We now know through the work of Fritz Popp that DNA not only absords light but also emits light. DNA also appears to be the bridge between our physical and etheric bodies. Modern sience now realizes that our DNA directly reflects our conciousness, making it possible to willfully change our DNA.
if you consider this, then if our earth aligns with the centre of our Galaxy wich it will on dec 21, 2012, it is highly probabile that it will have on effect on our conciousness
Post #17
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Thuto replied to Jacob's poston November 8, 2008 at 11:15am
I get what you are saying, and which point you coming from. Infact about 4 years ago, was the first time I got introduced to this whole 2012 prophecies, I was doing research on different dimensions of our existence. I just find it hard to believe because there has been so many prophecies that led us down before, but then again will see.
below is a quote I found about 2012 while I was busy with my research. It might mean something to you, but it's all fantasy stuff to me until proven differently:
"2012 Unlimited philosophy
1. Humanity and Planet Earth are currently going through a huge change or shift in consciousness and reality perception.
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most advanced in relation to time-science knowledge. Their main calendar is the most accurate on the planet. It has never erred. They actually have 22 calendars in total, covering the many timing cycles in the Universe and Solar System. Some of these calendars are yet to be revealed.
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in 2012. So we are currently "between worlds". This time is called the "Apocalypse" or revealing. This means the real truth will be revealed. It is also the time for us to work through "our stuff" individually and collectively.
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
- we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
- we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the fourth dimension
- Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic synchronization with the rest of the Universe.
- Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of our galaxy. (Hunab Ku)
"Everbody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it than others. But everyone is doing it" - Extraterrestrial Earth Mission.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000 years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16 billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating. (see Mayan Calendar Central)
8. During the Apocalypse or the time "between worlds" many people will be going through many personal changes. The changes will be many and varied. It is all part of what we came here to learn or experience. Examples of change could be- relationships coming to an end, change of residence or location, change of job or work, shift in attitude or thinking etc.
9. Remember, in any given moment we are making small and large decisions. Each decision is based on LOVE or FEAR. Choose love, follow your intuition, not intellect and follow your passion or "burning inner desire." Go with the flow.
10. Thought forms are very important and affect our everyday life. We create our reality with thought forms. If we think negative thoughts of others this is what we attract. If we think positive thoughts we will attract positive people and events. So be aware of your thoughts and eliminate the unnecessary negative or judgemental ones.
11. Be aware that most of the media is controlled by just a few. Use discernment! Look for the hidden agendas. Why is this information being presented to you? What is "their" real agenda? Is it a case of problemreactionsolution?
12. Remember almost nothing happens by accident. Almost all "events" are planned by some agency or other. Despite this, it is a very exciting time to be alive!"
below is a quote I found about 2012 while I was busy with my research. It might mean something to you, but it's all fantasy stuff to me until proven differently:
"2012 Unlimited philosophy
1. Humanity and Planet Earth are currently going through a huge change or shift in consciousness and reality perception.
2. The Mayan civilization of Central America was and is the most advanced in relation to time-science knowledge. Their main calendar is the most accurate on the planet. It has never erred. They actually have 22 calendars in total, covering the many timing cycles in the Universe and Solar System. Some of these calendars are yet to be revealed.
3. The Mayan fifth world finished in 1987. The sixth world starts in 2012. So we are currently "between worlds". This time is called the "Apocalypse" or revealing. This means the real truth will be revealed. It is also the time for us to work through "our stuff" individually and collectively.
4. The Mayan sixth world is actually blank. This means it is up to us, as co-creators, to start creating the new world and civilization we want now.
5. The Mayans also say that by 2012-
- we will have gone beyond technology as we know it.
- we will have gone beyond time and money.
- we will have entered the fifth dimension after passing through the fourth dimension
- Planet Earth and the Solar System will come into galactic synchronization with the rest of the Universe.
- Our DNA will be "upgraded" (or reprogrammed) from the centre of our galaxy. (Hunab Ku)
"Everbody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it than others. But everyone is doing it" - Extraterrestrial Earth Mission.
6. In 2012 the plane of our Solar System will line up exactly with the plane of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. This cycle has taken 26,000 years to complete. Virgil Armstrong also says that two other galaxies will line up with ours at the same time. A cosmic event!
7. Time is actually speeding up (or collapsing). For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second, The military have used this as a very reliable reference. However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! This mean there is the equalivant of less than 16 hours per day instead of the old 24 hours. Another intrepetation is - we, or rather Consciousness have been down this same road seven times before over the last 16 billion years. Each of these cycles of Creation runs 20 times faster than the last one. The same amount of Creation is paced 20 times tighter. This is why time seems to be going so fast. It is not "time" but Creation itself that is accelerating. (see Mayan Calendar Central)
8. During the Apocalypse or the time "between worlds" many people will be going through many personal changes. The changes will be many and varied. It is all part of what we came here to learn or experience. Examples of change could be- relationships coming to an end, change of residence or location, change of job or work, shift in attitude or thinking etc.
9. Remember, in any given moment we are making small and large decisions. Each decision is based on LOVE or FEAR. Choose love, follow your intuition, not intellect and follow your passion or "burning inner desire." Go with the flow.
10. Thought forms are very important and affect our everyday life. We create our reality with thought forms. If we think negative thoughts of others this is what we attract. If we think positive thoughts we will attract positive people and events. So be aware of your thoughts and eliminate the unnecessary negative or judgemental ones.
11. Be aware that most of the media is controlled by just a few. Use discernment! Look for the hidden agendas. Why is this information being presented to you? What is "their" real agenda? Is it a case of problemreactionsolution?
12. Remember almost nothing happens by accident. Almost all "events" are planned by some agency or other. Despite this, it is a very exciting time to be alive!"
Post #18
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Deniz replied to Thuto's poston November 8, 2008 at 12:06pm
< For thousands of years the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of Earth has been 7.83 cycles per second... However, since 1980 this resonance has been slowly rising. It is now over 12 cycles per second! >
Are there any reliable sources for this info? I was doing some researching on frequency/resonance previously but most seem to be interpretation or "spiritual" websites and not really scientific. I can agree that time is faster, but that's just subjective perception and interpretation. Are there actual scientific data that the Earth's pulse has changed? I mean if this is/was true, wouldn't we have heard of this through scientific research? Have you come across any?
Are there any reliable sources for this info? I was doing some researching on frequency/resonance previously but most seem to be interpretation or "spiritual" websites and not really scientific. I can agree that time is faster, but that's just subjective perception and interpretation. Are there actual scientific data that the Earth's pulse has changed? I mean if this is/was true, wouldn't we have heard of this through scientific research? Have you come across any?
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Jacob replied to Thuto's poston November 8, 2008 at 12:33pm
yup, cool stuff. where did you get this?..man, theres something you should watch. dont know if youve already seen this alex collier interview
http://www.youtube.com/wat
that is the the interview. theres also a lecture he gives in hawaii, you can search for that also. hes one of numerous contactees around the world. another one i also liked was Billy Meier:
http://www.youtube.com/wat
Let me know if youve seen them and what you think
http://www.youtube.com/wat
that is the the interview. theres also a lecture he gives in hawaii, you can search for that also. hes one of numerous contactees around the world. another one i also liked was Billy Meier:
http://www.youtube.com/wat
Let me know if youve seen them and what you think
Post #20
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Thuto wroteon November 8, 2008 at 12:36pm
Hi Deniz
You can look at the links below, Unfortunately i do not have much reference for you to look into.
http://www.iihr.uiowa.edu/
(This is an ongoing university research)
Another must read would be:
http://www.professional-ho
You can look at the links below, Unfortunately i do not have much reference for you to look into.
http://www.iihr.uiowa.edu/
(This is an ongoing university research)
Another must read would be:
http://www.professional-ho
Post #21
Chad wroteon November 8, 2008 at 12:36pm
interesting, I'll watch this later tonight (hopefully)
Post #22
Thuto wroteon November 8, 2008 at 12:48pm
I just watched the first video, well i just started now to find out about Lyra, I will watch all 12 parts and let you know tomorrow.
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Jacob wroteon November 8, 2008 at 1:09pm
thats great.and thanks for the links. In the billy meier videos randy winters shows some photos of the surface of mars wich billy took when he went with the pleadians. also some photos of flying saucers built by the germans. theres a joint german-american base in antartica called neuscwabhaven, some photos of their flying craft standing there.. enjoy
Post #24
Deniz replied to Thuto's poston November 8, 2008 at 1:33pm
Thanks for the links. It seems there aren't any clear scientific research yet, but one can be hopeful. I enjoyed the second link but again it's very similar to the websites I came across while researching. I do want to believe it but I guess I'm too pragmatic and want to see some cold hard science. My stance is that much of what is called pseudo-science or paranormal are simply phenomena that hasn't been scientifically explained YET. There are experiments being conducted that prove some of them really do exist but science hasn't been able to explain them. (Example: http://www.rense.com/gener
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Alvin wroteon November 9, 2008 at 3:00am
Dec 12, 2012... hmm... your December 12th? Or mine December 12th? We, in singapore, will see Dec 12 many hours before USA...
Perhaps South America's Dec 12 then..
Will take note.
Perhaps South America's Dec 12 then..
Will take note.
Post #29
Stéphane wroteon November 9, 2008 at 3:27pm
http://www.dailymotion.com
The Zeitgeist 2 (Addendum) Movie, French subtitles !
(Zeitgeist 2 Addendum en français)
The Zeitgeist 2 (Addendum) Movie, French subtitles !
(Zeitgeist 2 Addendum en français)
Post #30
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Alvin replied to Berlin's poston November 9, 2008 at 5:16pm
oops.. error on my part..sorry.. But it's the same question nevertheless.