While surfing for more information on the ladies...I found this link and I am shocked. I had no idea...

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/04/27/2009-04-27_family_has_ties_to_rubbed_out_tiny_manzo.html

I listened to the sisters' refutation of the rumors about their father-in-law. While it had nothing directly to do with the show, parallels can be made with what happened to the Manzos with what happened to Danielle. If we were to judge the Manzos on their history, that would make us as wrong as if we judge Danielle on her history. We're talking about being 2-faced here. If the Manzo wives were worried about their children finding out about their grandfather, shouldn't they take pity that they spread Danielle's hidden/forgotten business on the premise that she has 2 daughters, too?

Another question is: Tiny Manzo's reputed criminal ties are better because he was a mature, hardworking family man, and Danielle's criminal ties are not because she was a confused, young, sex-starved, complicit coke whore female? Nope, not to me. We're going to be fair and mete out similar advice and judgments.

Very true words Kimberly.

I'm confused why anyone would want to defend Danielle. She brings all this drama on herself. And comparing how a man was murdered with a young woman making her own choices to date a drug lord and do cocaine, are strange to me.

So, Christina, Tiny Manzo was just a man, but Danielle is just a whore? Caroline said her father wasn't in the mob, he was murdered. The Feds say he was either in it or mob-related, just like the Feds say Danielle was arrested for kidnapping, etc., and just like Danielle said she wasn't a whore.

I'm not defending drug abuse, or all the criminal activity mobsters are into. I am saying let's be fair in our judgments of people. Is it more important to judge Danielle on her past or on her treatment of herself and the people around her now? You know my answer. Her past is scandalous, just like the Manzos past is. Dina's point about it not being a part of the show is understandable. But they didn't give Danielle a break, and whoever fed them her ex-husband's biography, the Manzo sisters could be charged with making "Cop Without a Badge" part of the show, doing to others what they couldn't bear to be done to them.

Why do you or anyone care of peoples past??? Who cares, people make mistakes... get over it... I bet if it was your past.. you would feel the same as Danielle did and as well as the Manzo's family did. So its not your business to judge or care about.

To whom are you talking? Are you JUDG-ING me? LOL! No, seriously, everyone judges and has opinions. It's critical thinking with an intrapersonal edge. If you're replying to anything I've said, I don't want to be misunderstood. Re-read and get my underlying message.

I care.

A. Danielle is dumb! I think if she had just laughed it off and chucked it up to fiction and an X with a misused English degree it would not have been sensational enough to leave the cutting room floor.
B. It is very convenient that whenever people live in Jersey, value their families, and work hard, suddenly they must “have mob ties” HA. Like I used to say to the bully on the playground “get some new material that line is as stale as your Mom’s breath”.

Hey Kimberly! I totally agree with you. For one, I believe that Carolina and Dina have direct ties to the mob, I believe that's how they get all their money and the Way Caroline acts like the queen bitch and the head of her own mob, I really wouldn't put it past them. If it is true that their father in law had ties to the mob and they married into a family like that knowing their history, that makes them as much of a shitty person if not WORSE than they accuse Danielle to be. Danielle is no different than any celebrity who has ever had a bad drug habbit and dated the wrong guy. Why treat her so harshly? And why must Caroline and Dina defend their family so adimately, and are paranoid of any outsider becomming involved with them? The only reason I could think of is because they have something to hide~ their ties to the mob! In reality , Dina and Caroline are hipocrits and incredibaly shitty people with false pride and ZERO integraty or honesty. Danielle may have been a young promiscuous girl with no wisdom a time ago, but she is no worse than the scum they are. Am I right or Am I right?

and to respond to amanda, do your research on Tiny Manzo and you will find that he was , himself, a mobster who was killed Soprano style

so what that is there business and that is also danielle business shame on her ex for writing the book that is the one she should go after, and leave there family along they are what they are and are not hurting anyone so who give anyone the right to condem give them a break and maybe danielle should crack a smile once in a while she looks like a real creep

Totally agree Kim...the saying goes..don't dish it out if you can't take it..and they def did!! Wahhh wahh they think we're mob..but yet Danielle's crap was 20yrs ago ppl change. And how is Danielle always in drama, they invited HER everywhere including dinner, the whole thing was planned!!!

Very well said Kimberly! Finally - someone who "gets it!" :)

Right! You said it better than I could.

The nerve for them to judge some go damb nerve putting Danielle dirt out and they got dirt.What goes around comes back around

Thats what I said too they knew especially theresa what was gonna go down at that dinner that is why she invited Danielle . And wasn't she pregnat on the reunion show it looked like theresa was .

YOU ARE SO RIGHT CAM I GET A AMEN ON THAT

These women on this show are repulsive in my opinion.Their behavior is childish, & none of them seem to truly appreciate the fact that they are able to live a financial worry free life.
Now I hate to judge but being born & raised in NJ myself, I've seen this behavior up close & personal and let me tell you all something.This is one of the many reasons I've been living in WA State since 2001.I honestly mean no disrespect for the state of NJ.I love where I'm from.I'm just not impressed with some of the a-holes like the ones on this show.
Who knows, maybe this is all BS & they could very well be the best people on earth.But not from what I see.

I was thinking the same thing when they were talking about the father-in-law...... you know. Seriously, after the crap they had been through with the media, etc...... you would think they would have more sympathy for Danielle (very similar situation). It irks me that these women gang up on Danielle.... however, I do think she brings it on herself sometimes but can hold her own with them. Why in the world would she even want to be in that group of superficial, no-class, un-graceful women. Jackie is the only one of them I can even stomach. Jackie needs to stand up to Danielle and let her know in no uncertain terms that she is not going to be in the middle of their fight. She is a classy woman. Dina........ geeze, she is just a Caroline Clone. Dina isn't ever gonna learn how to stand on her own two feet if she keeps letting Caroline fight her battles. Can't stand either of them. Dina even talked about how inappropriate she thought it was to have the supper conversation in front of the children, but she thinks it is okay to tell her friend at a previous dinner that "woke up one day and she (her daughter) had tits". How embarrassing! Get a clue lady.

Kim, I couldn't agree with your post more. I am also glad that after learning of the mafia history with the Manzo family...others on this forum wondered how the Manzo's could possibly attack Danielle. Danielle no doubt brings drama upon herself. But, with a family history such as the Manzos who are they to judge her. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Jacqueline appears to be the only one in the bunch with a somewhat level head. And, as far Theresa claiming her anger management issue is b/c she is, "Italian"...I take offense to that. I am partly Sicilian and our family does not throw tables around and scream wildly at each other. It is a stereotype just like any other. It amazes me that they proudly reinforce stereotypes of their own heritage. I do not agree with that at all.

They are Jersey trash. Plain and simple. That's why you'll never see old-money, truly wealthy people on any of these shows. But Caroline is the worst. 2 out of three of her children are losers and she really expects people to think that "family" is so important to her. She's typical Italian trash who know nothing but their family ties and yet their lives are falling apart.

Good entertainment though.

AMEN =)

right on brother! I found it rather strange that Teresa's husband was able to pay for that ugly furniture with rolls of cash. Only drug dealers and gangsters carry that kind of green around. Red flag. Caroline and Dina have a strange bond and totally reminds me of the Godfather movies. I'm latin and we have tight families but nothing like what these jokers have going on. We welcome friends into our family lives and relish it.

Well, at the end of tonight's show, my conclusion is that Caroline sure acts like a mafia wife (and I've been watching her during all the episodes). Kind of makes sense with that article about their past.

Well said Heather!

Ok..I missed alot of this show..Dina is married to Tommy..Caroline is married to Al...Al and Tommy are brother's and Dina and Caroline are sisters..Is that corrrect...Jacqueline is married to Dina and Caroline's brother..Dina and Caroline have another brother, too..so are Teresa and her husband related to Dina and Caroline or Al and Tommy...

I don't like Caroline and I think she's hiding sumpthin! If she thought she could hurt Danielle and get away with it, I believe she wouldn't hesitate. How can she attack and accuse Danielle about her Columbian ties when she has mob ties? Doesn't matter if the father in law is dead, he was a mobster so she's got ties.

Theresa has the IQ of about -5. Who walks around with that kind of cash unless you're showing off? Hence, the low IQ mark. Dina is a coward and I don't think it would bother her one bit if her older sister got killed because of her crap and Caroline is stupid for not letting Dina at least try to fight her own battles. Anyone notice how Dina got up from the table and left Caroline sitting there fighting her battle? WHAT IS THAT?!

Jacqueline is about the only one that seems stable and honest.

Amanda, I am sorry but you sound very naive. Those who think the Housewives have mob ties are not looking at 1) Living in New Jersey, 2) strong family ties, 3) Working hard. It's not the what, but the how--how they show their love of family. They act like brutes! Working hard--the girls don't work, the husbands do, in construction and the restaurant business (two well-known mob "cover" businesses) and they live in North Jersey. There is just something about the way these people live their lives. And Michael, I agree with you--these people are trash, except for Jacqueline, who is sweet, down-to-earth, and genuine. Danielle--UGH! A lying, grasping, vindictive, narcissistic individual who lets her children in on way too much about her sordid life. How did she produce such nice kids?

All im saying is you people are clueless and DONT know jack about these people.You should do some research on people and get to know them before you judge them.