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Post #1
Jake wroteon November 9, 2009 at 12:20am
Im curious to hear peoples interpretation of the bands work. This work should be delved into like a novel. And this band should be way more prominent than what's out there now. Discuss?
Post #2
Giovanni wroteon November 9, 2009 at 8:29pm
Sleep is wrong. We have no morals, yet we assign morals to matters we have no choice in doing. We must all die, even if we abstain from sleep. That is wrong because we don't have a choice in it. We don't choose the only option because if we did we are not exercising free will, only the freedom of choice.

I didn't really think out any of that. :P Goodnight! *burp*
Post #3
Jake wroteon November 9, 2009 at 8:59pm
I had a weird interpretation of the following section:

When I grow up I'm never gonna sleep
When I grow up I'm never gonna cry
When I grow up I'm never gonna die
When I go out I'm never coming home

To me this section represents that when your a kid you hate to go to bed... so when you grow up you don't have to. Same thing with crying.... you think adults don't cry... Im guessing the "never gonna die" means that at a young age, maybe you don't understand the inevitability of death, or it's so far in the future it doesn't exist for you....and the coming home to me means when I grow up I never have to come back here... because it seems alot of people get tired of living where they grew up.

I dunno, I'm probably way off, but it's cool to think about atleast.
Post #4
Giovanni wroteon November 9, 2009 at 9:10pm
If the band wanted you to take away from their music only one interpretation they wouldn't have wrote the songs. They would just tell you what they think.

That said, the order is wrong. 'coming home' comes before 'never gonna die'.

Yes, kids don't want to be made to sleep, they don't wanna cry like babies because they want to grow up and go out and never come home at curfew. And most of all they don't think death is a reality when life is bright in the beginning.
Post #5
Jake wroteon November 9, 2009 at 10:08pm
Thanks for fixing that for me, I just copied the lyrics from a site hoping they were correct as to not go from the top of my head... my bad!
Post #6
Resplendent wroteon November 11, 2009 at 3:23pm
Mine? A very interesting film with no pictures plays out in my head.


Sometimes I imagine I smell fried shrimp.
Post #7
Karl wroteon November 11, 2009 at 5:51pm
>If the band wanted you to take away from their music only one interpretation they wouldn't have wrote the songs. They would just tell you what they think.<

I disagree. just because a band (not necessarily SGM) has a specific point to a song doesn't mean that they wouldn't write it as a song.

Look to Johnny cash...a lot of his songs are stories, right? there is a distinct point, a clear narrative. but he doesn't just tell us what he thinks, he puts it into song.

Look at musicals, opera, etc. All examples of musical works that have clear ideas laid out for the listener.

Now, a more esoteric group like SGM, or Unexpect might make their point a little more difficult to grasp, either intentionally or unintentionally, but just because there is no clear interpretation doesn't mean that they didn't have a clear idea in mind when they wrote the song. it just means they have an abstract way of expressing those ideas.
Post #8
Jake wroteon November 11, 2009 at 8:55pm
I agree with both points, but they could also (on certain songs) be coming from a more post modern/art music style that relies on surreal thought patterns and non-sensical lyrics... not saying that's what they do but it has been done before with great reverence (See early Pink Floyd). However certain songs like 1997 have a narrative, but to me that seems to be a vehicle for the rhythmic tendencies of a very musical song.... it reminds me of early King Crimson on the instrumental side.
Post #9
Karl wroteon November 11, 2009 at 9:38pm
For sure. I love early pink floyd. can't listen to anything after wish you were here, to be quite frank. it's all about ummagumma and animals for me...

another thing that struck me early on was the fact that they kept using some of my favorite poets in their lyrics. dylan thomas, of course, in sleep is wrong, and richard brautigan in what shall we do without us? great referencing, a fine homage. i think they would both approve.

one of my favorite songs is bring back the apocalypse, and i think my favorite part is the way they use the lyrics...disjointed, clever (bring back the apocalypse, never to late for the end) and the way they almost use rounds (bring back, bring it, bring it, bring it back) right in line with the rhythm...fantastic!
Post #10
Giovanni wroteon November 11, 2009 at 9:47pm
I miss Moe! now... I want to see one of his solo shows before he sells all of his equipment due to his emo ways :P

Post #11
Jake wroteon November 11, 2009 at 10:37pm
yeah it took me a few months to memorize the "bring back, bring it, bring it, bring it back" section
Post #12
Karl wroteon November 11, 2009 at 11:08pm
how many times have you seen them? I've seen them 3 times. which i consider a remarkable acheivement, seeing as how i'm from the middle of goddamn nowhere and I have to go to great lengths to make it to a show.

San Francisco w/ secret chiefs
Santa Cruz w/ cheer accident (auditioned to be their lighting person AWESOME)
Denver w/ faun fables and Laura Goldhamer and the Silver Nails
Post #13
Jake wroteon November 11, 2009 at 11:30pm
never had the chance, as I live in Dallas TX, there's no market for them here nor is there really a "scene" to speak of, which sucks, because lo and behold I'm in a band! I'm sure they have played here but I just missed it if it did happen. I watch all the you tube vids which don't do them justice, but it cures some curiosity I have.
Post #14
Giovanni wroteon November 13, 2009 at 12:05pm
They've played Dallas or Austin several times. I finally got to see them in St. Pete last May. Great show. They told me they can't play Ablutions because it has an organ for an electric piano--and since they don't use electronic stuff, etc. they will never play it again. I begged them to an encore.
Post #15
Jake wroteon November 13, 2009 at 2:27pm
I'll have to show up next time they're in town. Awesome.
Post #16
Giovanni wroteon November 13, 2009 at 2:55pm
Ask for Ablutions! And pick up Ravish CD if you can. It's Matthias, Carla, and Dan's collection of original productions and inkboat productions. Etcetera...
Post #17
John D. wrote17 hours ago
I'm still into interpreting the songs in the debut album, but I think if their intentions are to be understood, you'd have to interpret as songs as being an organic unity, like those you see in concept albums.