Message from CUSA President
Topic: Message from CUSA President

Post #1
Hashem wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:10pm
Will an apology be issued for all of the students who felt discriminated against by the Council?

Post #2
Lauren wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:11pm
When will the next council meeting be held?

Post #3
Lydia wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:12pm
Will there be an agenda sent out beforehand this time?

Post #4
Jay wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:12pm
Brittany, your council owes Canada an apology. You and every single member of council, except the two members who voted against the motion and Michael Monks who is big enough to admit a mistake, need to resign IMMEDIATELY and issue a NATIONAL APOLOGY televised on all the networks. Excuses on 'A' News about "wanting to switch it up" aren't good enough.
Michael Monks has class.
Michael Monks has class.

Post #5
Alex wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:13pm
When will a statement be made to the media so that we stop getting dragged through the mud?

Post #6
Christine wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:13pm
Do you have any intentions of extending your support for Shinerama?

Post #7
1 reply
Emrys wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:13pm
Brittany, nobody has any problem with CUSA supporting other charities. There are probably a number of people who are angry because you won't be supporting CF research. This is not the issue.
The issue is that the stated reason was that the disease affected "only white people, and primarily males."
Any excuse you now give the world is meaningless. When you pass a motion with this kind of wording, it doesn't matter if you claim it was only that one member's reasoning. CUSA passed it without removing that whereas clause. That means CUSA passed it based on racial and gender discrimination.
Imagine if Parliament tried to excuse passing a motion like this by saying it was only the view of that one MP who proposed the bill.
CUSA is rampantly overrun with irrational leftism, and you've finally been busted on it.
Please resign.
The issue is that the stated reason was that the disease affected "only white people, and primarily males."
Any excuse you now give the world is meaningless. When you pass a motion with this kind of wording, it doesn't matter if you claim it was only that one member's reasoning. CUSA passed it without removing that whereas clause. That means CUSA passed it based on racial and gender discrimination.
Imagine if Parliament tried to excuse passing a motion like this by saying it was only the view of that one MP who proposed the bill.
CUSA is rampantly overrun with irrational leftism, and you've finally been busted on it.
Please resign.

Post #8
Lauren wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:13pm
Also, will you respond to all the students who have e-mailed you? I know several of us have and have yet to receive a response.

Post #9
Bianca wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:15pm
This is basically what has been repeated over and over on the board, by people who are not the CUSA president. I was expecting more.
I was hoping by now CUSA would already have a plan of action. It's interesting that now our opinions/suggestions are wanted but we had no place or chance to weigh in on the original decision.
I was hoping by now CUSA would already have a plan of action. It's interesting that now our opinions/suggestions are wanted but we had no place or chance to weigh in on the original decision.

Post #10
Simon wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:15pm
Reconsidering the issue after people have expressed their dissent simply isn't good enough. You and your council have failed Carleton. We are the laughing stock of the nation.
My questions for you are:
- How is it acceptable to not send out an agenda?
- How is it acceptable to not research the issue before making broad proclamations
- How have you not grossly abused the trust Carleton placed in your hands?
My questions for you are:
- How is it acceptable to not send out an agenda?
- How is it acceptable to not research the issue before making broad proclamations
- How have you not grossly abused the trust Carleton placed in your hands?

Post #11
Matt wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:18pm
Apologize to the student body, and all affected and then resign. You're obviously too inept to be student council president.

Post #12
Dean wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:18pm
Hello Brittany,
Let me thank you for attempting to clarify your position. CUSA would be doing itself a great service by passing a motion condemning the statements of Mr. Northup.
But I would like to remind you that in addition to Mr. Northup, other CUSA representatives are on record saying that they support his line of thinking. And to me, that is simply unacceptable.
This is an undefendable offense. You need to publicly apologize and admit you were wrong. Excuses cannot fix the national embarassment you have dealt Carleton University today.
Let me thank you for attempting to clarify your position. CUSA would be doing itself a great service by passing a motion condemning the statements of Mr. Northup.
But I would like to remind you that in addition to Mr. Northup, other CUSA representatives are on record saying that they support his line of thinking. And to me, that is simply unacceptable.
This is an undefendable offense. You need to publicly apologize and admit you were wrong. Excuses cannot fix the national embarassment you have dealt Carleton University today.

Post #13
Robert wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:19pm
Allowing a racist motion to be tabled is inexcusable. Will you hold yourself accountable for your serious lack of leadership and judgment and resign?
You obviously do not represent the view point of your constituency - as proven here, online, on TV and on the radio.
You obviously do not represent the view point of your constituency - as proven here, online, on TV and on the radio.

Post #14
Sarah wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:19pm
You mentioned nothing of your blatant disregard for common and accepted facts about cystic fibrosis. It clearly states in your motions why the council had chosen to remove themselves from the Shinerama campaign. Those reasons are incredulous due to them being NOT TRUE.
Are you going to apologize - to Carleton students, Canada and the many, many females and non-white people dying from this horrible disease? I believe, at the very least, that it is in order here.
I simply plea for a lack of ignorance, and an apology, Brittany.
Are you going to apologize - to Carleton students, Canada and the many, many females and non-white people dying from this horrible disease? I believe, at the very least, that it is in order here.
I simply plea for a lack of ignorance, and an apology, Brittany.

Post #15
Talana wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:21pm
The Whereas statements support the motion at hand. If they are faulty the motion is faulty. Why are board members so quick to say they don't matter? You have aplogized for the confusion, but are you going to apologize for the gross negligance that was a part of the wheras clauses?

Post #16
Will replied to Brittany's poston November 25, 2008 at 8:21pm
Will CUSA apologize for implying that white males aren't worth giving charity to?
Will CUSA apologize for being balantly racist towards white males?
Will CUSA apologize for making a national embarassment of our school?
As far as I can see, now that we've been featured on national news, do the responsible thing.
All those who voted for this openly racist motion should resign. The councillors that did not vote for the motion should be allowed to stay on.
Will CUSA apologize for being balantly racist towards white males?
Will CUSA apologize for making a national embarassment of our school?
As far as I can see, now that we've been featured on national news, do the responsible thing.
All those who voted for this openly racist motion should resign. The councillors that did not vote for the motion should be allowed to stay on.

Post #17
Roy wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:22pm
I think I speak on behalf of the majority of alumni in saying your council's actions were grossly irresponsible.
All council members that voted on this, should reverse their decision, apologize and resign immediately.
At least then you will have done something sensible and helped restore some honour to Carleton.
All council members that voted on this, should reverse their decision, apologize and resign immediately.
At least then you will have done something sensible and helped restore some honour to Carleton.

Post #18
Chris wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:23pm
I'm an Alumni member of Carleton and I just felt like letting you know that CUSA has disappointed me again. But hey, why should I expect anything different? I never felt represented before, so it's nice to see CUSA has carried on the tradition with the new students too.

Post #19
1 reply
James replied to Brittany's poston November 25, 2008 at 8:24pm
I agree with Dean. This motion could have easily been struck down and a new one could have been put forth with better words. Regardless of the intention of the motion, the motion itself is explicitly racist and sexist and there is no excuse for that. I feel highly insulted and taken aback that 17 out of 19 members of council felt that this sort of explicit racism and sexism was acceptable, it is not. Everyone makes mistakes, but this is beyond ridiculous. If you have not already, please contact Michael Monks and sign on for the emergency CUSA council meeting so that this can be salvaged as soon as possible.

Post #20
Adam replied to James's poston November 25, 2008 at 8:26pm
I signed it already. And I did not vote for the original motion as I was absent - and no proxy voted for it because my proxy fell through at the last minute.

Post #21
Katie wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:26pm
You and the rest of the councillors that passed this motion have disgraced Carleton! PLEASE RESIGN.

Post #22
Kevin wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:29pm
This is utterly amazing. Like it has been said a number of times, we are now a laughing stock of the University system and Canada alike.
In the last couple of years we have come a long way from Carleton being ranked at the bottom of McLean's University ranking. Now because of this we are back at square one. Thank you for making other people think that the school that I attend is a joke, and at this point I'll have to agree with them.
You can expect a letter from me and all the other Executives on your desk in the morning. I also expect a response.
But hey guys look at it this way, at least we might have a football team again in a couple of years.
In the last couple of years we have come a long way from Carleton being ranked at the bottom of McLean's University ranking. Now because of this we are back at square one. Thank you for making other people think that the school that I attend is a joke, and at this point I'll have to agree with them.
You can expect a letter from me and all the other Executives on your desk in the morning. I also expect a response.
But hey guys look at it this way, at least we might have a football team again in a couple of years.

Post #23
Mark wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:31pm
Brittany, the way this motion has been worded is made to sound racist and sexist. Citing a disease as only affecting white males is a very ignorant comment and you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope you resign and hopefully will come to see white males as a group worth fighting for.

Post #24
Benny wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:31pm
RESIGN!!! You could have tabled the motion, you could have changed the words of the motion, you could have spoken to the person that moved it ANYTHING.
You've failed as a president, as has your executive. Especially the one for council.
You say that you want to reconsider it but what you are not saying is that you SUPPORT Shinerama. You're not taking it back. You just want to change your WORDING but have the same RESULTS.
Brittany Smyth, get off your CUSA Podium. I'm tired of the bobble-headed president.
You've failed as a president, as has your executive. Especially the one for council.
You say that you want to reconsider it but what you are not saying is that you SUPPORT Shinerama. You're not taking it back. You just want to change your WORDING but have the same RESULTS.
Brittany Smyth, get off your CUSA Podium. I'm tired of the bobble-headed president.

Post #25
1 reply
Sean wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:32pm
I was not at the CUSA meeting (due to work), but my proxy, Brandon Wallingford, joined Nick as the only two people to vote against this terrible motion. For that, I am very proud of him, as he truely represented my views (as a proxy should). I fully agree that some councillors should be dismissed, but not all Katie. Donnie should not be able to stay on council after this, and I say the same goes for Meera.

Post #26
Will wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:33pm
Michael Monks has the right idea.

Post #27
Will replied to Brittany's poston November 25, 2008 at 8:33pm
Ms. Smyth, sugarcoat the whereas terminology any which way you want, but as a students' association the job you and your council is faced with is to represent the students at Carleton University. This is regardless to the misconception of minority vs. majority as every student who pays their dues to CUSA is entitled to be represented fairly and equally regardless of opinion.
It is my understanding that students are fed up with blind political pandering from CUSA and the immediate defence of their members as though they see separate "us" and "them". As a student, I feel this injustice, regardless of the motion or not and the wording therein, simply must be rectified. A formal apology to the student population and the resignation of Mr. Northrup's is the fairest of the fair. To do otherwise is to undermine the authority of the paying student and the voter on yours and his mandate.
It is my understanding that students are fed up with blind political pandering from CUSA and the immediate defence of their members as though they see separate "us" and "them". As a student, I feel this injustice, regardless of the motion or not and the wording therein, simply must be rectified. A formal apology to the student population and the resignation of Mr. Northrup's is the fairest of the fair. To do otherwise is to undermine the authority of the paying student and the voter on yours and his mandate.

Post #28
Mike wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:35pm
The issue never was with Shinerama in my eyes, it was with the wording of the motion, or more specifically the whereas clause. If you don't support the whole motion, including all the clauses don't vote for it. This was a blatant case of a racist motion that never should have seen the light of day. There are 17 people that should be ashamed of themselves, and at least three people who should resign, if not 17. This is not how you run any organization, let alone one that is responsible for the views and opinions of 15000+ people.

Post #29
Bianca wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:36pm
Also let's not forget another issue- not just the CF facts- but that the councillors were basically straight out lied to about orientation volunteers supporting this decision. It's so embarrassing and ridiculous that our councillors have to be deceived to get a motion to pass.
How is CUSA ever supposed to gain respect when information like this comes to light?
How is CUSA ever supposed to gain respect when information like this comes to light?

Post #30
Sam wroteon November 25, 2008 at 8:38pm
Your next council meeting should be held as soon as possible (ie: Tomorrow morning at 8am).
Clearly you are incapable of managing a student council, under your management CUSA has disgraced Carleton University on an international scale.
The only responsible thing for you to do now Brittany is resign.
Clearly you are incapable of managing a student council, under your management CUSA has disgraced Carleton University on an international scale.
The only responsible thing for you to do now Brittany is resign.

