Alright, Well, welcome to this is my Capitol office in the state Capitol building. It is Monday, April sixth. I'm joined by of course, Doctor Janice Haldane, our chief medical executive since Thursday I signed an executive order that prohibits all employers from retaliating against an employee for staying home from work if they are one of their close contacts has tested positive for Covid- 19 or has symptoms of the disease. The order also Stay home Stay Safe Executive order by declaring that all Michiganders who test positive or show symptoms or who live with someone who tests positive or shows symptoms should not leave their homes unless absolutely necessary and we saw leaders from the Detroit Pistons, the Lions, the Tigers and the Red Wings come together to ask health professionals from across the country to come to Michigan to help us fight Kobe 19. We are running dangerously. On PPE at Beaumont Hospital, we have less than three days until in 90 - five masks run out at Henry Ford Health System. We have less than four days and that the Detroit Medical Center less than 10 days at all three health systems. there are less than three days until face Shields run out in less than six days until surgical gallons run out. Now. This data does not include private donations that are going straight to hospitals for which we are incredibly grateful. I think it's. Important to note that while these timelines are very serious, they're a vast improvement from where we were just a week ago when we were living more like day to day, but I highlight them because we must continue to do more. We are doing everything that we can at the state level to secure more personal protection equipment today we will begin distributing one point Two million surgical masks that the state has procured on the open market and Female has sent to Michigan 400 ventilators one point one million surgical masks, 230 - 2000, Face shields and two million gloves. We're grateful to that Fema will be shipping a million more in 90 - five masks to Wayne Oakland and Macomb Counties. This week. I spoke with Vice President Pence both on Saturday morning and on Sunday morning and we are grateful and continue to work with Fema and As well as the Michigan National Guard to get TCF Center up and running to see patients by Friday, Ford and the United Auto Workers have already donated thousands of face shields to Michigan hospitals and yesterday, the state issued a purchase of One million face Shields from for over the next three weeks. We're making some progress and that is a good thing, but we need more people PPE to continue fighting this virus while fighting. We've seen an unprecedented rise in unemployment claims When this first started a month ago, I took steps to expand benefits for Michiganders, who are out of work because of Kobe 19 and ease rules to make it easier to apply for unemployment. now, the high value that we have seen outpaces any even in the the toughest week during the Great Recession the hardest week during the Great Recession for perspective was 70 - 7000 claims. Prior to Covid- 19, first presenting in Michigan, we were averaging around 5000 claims for a Four perspective to know that that's what it was and now since Covid- 19 the week of March fifteenth through the 20 -first, there were a hundred and 20 - 7000 new claims was five announced A hundred and 20 - 7000 the week of March 20, -second through 20 -eighth. It was 300000 new claims. These numbers are staggering and they will continue to climb. We've had almost as many people in one day Week of the Great Recession, Many people have applied in two weeks. I'm sorry more people have applied in two weeks than all of 2019 Accordingly, we've had been completely inundated in our UI A system we are continuing to work to redouble our efforts quadruple our efforts actually working with DT MB around the clock to increase our website capacity for 1090. Employees and workers for independent contractors and gig economy workers the additional $600 per week that we are hoping to be able to include we are still waiting on the US Department of Labor to give us the rules and authorization to pay. I just wanna say I understand how frustrating this can be. I've talked to a number of people who've been trying to navigate the unemployment system. I know that there are eight hundred thousand claims. And I want you to know we will get to you. This is hard but we cannot proceed until we've got the guidance from the federal government and until we have the ability to get everyone into the queue. I'm gonna be dedicated some of my time this week to help with that effort personally and I invite anyone who would like to ship in and put their time into it to join me. I'll continue to update Michiganders on where we are with unemployment benefits as we navigate these times and please know I have done a lot to cut Red tape and make it easier to apply for. Whether it is eliminating the paperwork that you used to be required or it is alleviating the date certain for which to a crew benefits. Those things will not hold you back. We will help you get the unemployment that you deserve and that you need so I wanna give you an update on covid- 19 cases. It's been just under one month since we saw the first cases of Kobe in 19 in Michigan since we announced those first two cases on March tenth, our case numbers have jumped to 15718. Today or yesterday, at the same time, 617 people have died from Coco 19, as of today, nearly 80 percent of the positive code. 19 cases are in Wayne, Oakland and Macomb Counties. Lives in the same area this virus moves easily from person to person, especially in areas with higher density Covid-, 19, does not contain itself to city limit to County line or to stateline when the question is about what's happening in Michigan or what's happening in Detroit? It's really about the region where we have the most populated density. While we still don't have enough test, we will continue and have continued to do more If you don't feel sick, I wanna make sure people remember you can be carrying this virus. Doctor Fouche. I think said that they anticipate up to 50 percent of people with Covid- 19 might not even know that they're carrying it right now, just one person who is carrying Kobe 19, can infect 40 people in a day who in turn go on to affect thousands. and that's why everyone of us has to do our part. Every one of us has to do it for the loved one that we're worried about the grandparent in a nursing home, the child or siblings on the front lines of the news. By hospital, the coworker who helps you get through the long days who's a higher risk because they have a chronic illness or the neighbor who works at the checkout at the grocery store or at the pharmacy. It's on every one of us to do our part to protect them. And now I wanna talk about masks The executive order. I signed on Friday also States that when symptomatic people or their close contacts leave their home, they wear some form of covering over their mouth, such as a homemade mask, a scarf, a bandana or a hanker chief. This is a Detroit. Mask that someone generously sent to me, I encourage everyone to wear some sort of a face covering in those few trips that you need to leave the House during this time, it's crucial that you only leave your home when absolutely necessary, like going to the grocery store or picking up a prescription limit, Those trips make them quick and limited to precisely what you need and return to your homes when you must leave Doctor Calderon and the CDC are recommending that you wear a mask because there's a. Shortage of 90 -, five and surgical masks. We ask that you wear one like this so that those critical masks are left for the people on the front line trying to take care of the sick. Let me be clear, though wearing a mask does not mean that you are immune and that you don't need to observe all of the other CDC guidelines. you still need to stay six feet away from people when you're out in public washing your hands coughing into our sneezing into get the crook of your arm Just wearing a mask doesn't give you a false sense of security and you think that you can resume normal life. It's just an added protection Michiganers must still stay home and stay safe in order for us to slow the spread. I've been asking people to post how they're doing and what they're doing and how they're doing their part during this crisis. Thousands of people have contributed people are using their time to clean up their local parks or finding fun activities to do at home while they're with their kids. Some have given blood bag. Online and scheduling a trip to the Red Cross and so many people have sent photos of their homemade masks that they've made for themselves or nursing home residents or for health care professionals. We're grateful for that and making a homemade mask is simple. If you're not creative like me, there are no so options online or if you are creative, you can make a really nice one like like the one that my friend gave me. I encourage you to take the time to educate yourself and then to post it with hashtag doing MRI part doing my part. This is an unprecedented time in our history, and we've gotta do everything we can to help each other get through it. We will get through this. We've heard stories from people across the state who hold on to the little things to help them cope health care professionals like Lorie, who is a nurse at Saint Mary Mercy in Livonia who sings amazing grace to her patients or Katie, a nurse at Sparrow Hospital who uses dry erase markers to draw pictures on her. Face Shield or the eighth grade math teacher who writes problems on students driveways in chalk as they go for their job or Colleen from Hamtramck, who created a theater where she performs from her balcony and streams on social media to share laughter with people or these two heroes. these are these are relatives of people who work on my staff. This is Geeta Daggers sister, doctor told Dagger and Ron Owens as mom Fish data Irwin. They are on the front lines and we're highlighting them cuz we're amazed by their incredible dedication doing. Navigating this crisis, I'm proud to live in a state where we're doing everything we can to limit the spread of covid- 19. The New York Times released this graphic in the last couple of weeks or in the last couple of days, and it shows where in America. people are complying with stay-at-home orders and I think it's important to look at Michigan Michiganders are taking this seriously. a lot of people in the Great Lakes area are the vast majority of us are staying home and staying safe and also, according To the. Blowing in 10 of 10 Michigan's most active County, Several hospitals are reporting that discharges of patients are picking up. It does not mean the number is going down, but it does mean that we're slowing the rate of increase. That's why we all have to continue doing our part and being aggressive. I've also received data that confirms that Michiganders are traveling less for retail recreation groceries trips to the pharmacy. And work we're traveling less than our neighbors in Illinois, Indiana and Ohio, and this is good, but we must keep it up. We must encourage our friends in other States to take this seriously as well. if you know someone in a state that hasn't been as aggressive as we encourage them to be so by calling them even if their leaders aren't being as aggressive, they can still do their part to keep themselves and their family members safe. most of us know and have loved ones in other States. I know that my dad is a snowbird who is still in Florida and he's got Compromised lung function and I'm worried about him so I keep calling and harassing him and I hope that you all do that with your loved ones as well cuz this isn't just Michigan's fight to get through this, we have to be United as a country against this virus, It doesn't discriminate between state lines and it doesn't discriminate between party lines. Every one of us is susceptible and we must fight this virus together we are still looking for volunteers at our website at Michigan Dot Gov. Forward slash Fight Covered 19. If you're a hospital, professional or a health care professional that can provide your expertise at a nearby. Someone who can donate to your local food Bank, donate blood or help manufacture medical supplies. I urge you to reach out if you're an employer in Michigan who has health care people on your team and you wanna encourage them to sign up and you will help them through this by continuing to pay their salary like some of our employers have, I urge you to do that as well? And we will get through this together. I thank you for the hard work that you've done. I thank you for the sacrifice that you made. I know that everyone of us is is making a sacrifice and it does not come easily but is incredibly important to the health of our state, the health of our people in the health of our economy in the long run with that I'll turn over to Doctor Janet Caldo for a few comments cases daily in the state thousand new cases as of yesterday as the gun. Mentioned Michigan had 15718 cases and 617 deaths based on our preliminary data. We see that it appears to be impacting minority populations greater with 30 - three percent of cases and 40 percent of deaths being an African Americans. We do not fully understand the scope of how Covid- 19 is impacting every community and we will continue to track and analyze this data that will be incredibly important. but what Is that every Michigander regardless of their race, regardless of where they live must have the resources and tools available to be able to fight this disease. We're working very closely with community leaders to make sure we are doing everything we can to support those efforts. We're also expanding testing across the state testing capacity has grown significantly even in the past 10 days on March 20, -fifth Michigan reported about 9000 cumulative test for Corona virus. 10 days later on April fourth, we reported over 40000 cumulative test at least 15 laboratories in the state are now able to run these tests as opposed to one about a month ago, our state laboratory We've also learned that several Michigan hospitals as well as the city of Detroit will receive rapid testing supplies from Abbott Laboratories, which produces a result in 15 minutes or less. We will continue to make testing a priority and more easily accessible for Michiganders and simpler for our metal. Providers who want to provide this test for their patients, We know as the governor mentioned, we are not out of the Woods yet our hospitals continue to be overwhelmed, particularly in Southeast Michigan every day we ask all a hundred and 70 - three acute care hospitals to share data with us on the patients they are taking care of who have covid- 19. The data is still incomplete, but based on the information we have received on April fourth, they were at least. 760 - eight patients hospitalized for Covid- 19 across the state 1380 - Three of those were unveiled 80 -, nine percent of those hospitalized were in Southeast Michigan. We're working incredibly hard to make sure hospitals get the support they need equipment, ventilators, Mass gowns and medications. We're also working around the clock to ready additional alternate care sites like the TCF Center in Detroit and we expect this facility This week while we work to expand testing and make sure our hospitals are supported, I can't stress enough. The most important thing to do is he the governors Stay home. Stay safe order do not go out of your home unless it is absolutely necessary to get food medicine or to do critical infrastructure work and if you must go out, you should wear a mask to protect yourself and others. We're asking people to join the My mask Challenge, make a mask from a cloth or bandanna and wear one every time. You go out just remember that we have to leave the surgical mask and then in 90 - five mask for our frontline health care workers. Covid-, 19, is incredibly serious. It's infecting and it's killing people across the state of all ages. No one is immune and there is no treatment. I implore all of us to remain vigilant and to stay home as much as possible to do your part to fight this disease and I'll turn it back over to you. Governor Alright. Thanks Doctor Calvin with that. Happy to open it up. Governor do plan to extend the state home state stay safe order so we are looking at an additional order with regard to stay home and stay safe. We know that people are taking it seriously and I think that that's a good thing. I think that to see the real benefits of the work that we've done. it takes a few weeks to know what that really means, but we do know that the most effective tool that we have right now as our hospitals are overwhelmed and we don't have enough PPE. Is to slow the spread of the virus, and that's precisely why we did the stay home order as early as we did. We are aggressive. we be you know we were on the front edge of of setting that policy we are not close to the apex yet we haven't hit that yet and until we do, I think it's absolutely essential that we're continuing to be aggressive, so I would anticipate an additional order probably in the next week and then you'll have more information on that. So stay tuned. What do you plan to do if you're a request to extend the state of emergency a shutdown tomorrow, or if it's only approved for a short time well, the action tomorrow, but the Legislature is really only to extend it by one day. So that's that I think that's what is creating so much concern Nation amongst legislators when I issued the emergency order and also the disaster declaration that actually started a 20 -eight-day clock if they take action. That's less than what they're talking about in the press. It's really only a wonderful extension and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to come in just to extend for one day Now, if they're coming in, I hope that they will seriously look at going 70 days because I would hate for them to have to come back at the height of the crisis that we're confronting these are legislators that come from all parts of our state so to congregate and then go back to all parts of our state as contrary to all of the best medical advice that we're getting from epidemiologist. I recognize and value the work of the Legislature, but I am concerned about their health and I do know that another legislator today was found to be positive for Kobi 19, and it's precisely why in the wake of Representative Robinson's passing that I'm very concerned about any efforts to come back more than actually necessary just. Governor over the weekend, There was a reboot an update on the system for unemployment. Do you have any sense of that? Going to have a positive influence on getting some more of those unemployment benefits file more quickly, Yeah, that I mean, that's the goal. Rick you know I highlighted in my comments the incredible surge on the unemployment system even in the height of the Great recession, it worth anything that we're seeing right now and that's precisely why I thought it was really important to go from 20 weeks to 26 weeks, you know laterally giving people another month of unemployment because of the executive order that I issued I'm grateful for the work That's. In the federal level, Gary Peters has been a big part of that, but what we need to do is make sure everyone gets an opportunity to file. There's no penalty for not filing by a date certain I change that I cut the Red tape so that it's gonna be easier for folks to actually get the unemployment but navigating the system is a challenge and and I share and feel the frustration that people are having their anxious and and that's understandable. I just know that we are rebuilding the system we are doubling and then quadrupling the number of. That are helping at the at the agency so that we're able to get everyone signed up. Governor. Thank you aside from your role as as head of government. I'm wondering if you could speak personally about how this is affected you and how you can relate to the millions of Michiganders who are looking to you not only for leadership but to try and understand you know where the light is at the end of the tunnel and how to cope with this. Yeah so wipers. The question you know, like everyone, this is this is a challenging time and you know I see it in the my kid's eyes and and my husband's eyes as they're all trying to figure out what what is the right thing to do? how do we navigate this one will life ever get back to normal? Are we gonna be okay and we don't have the added pressures that I know a lot of Michiganders do about how are they gonna you know keep a roof over their heads and so I am reminded every. Day How great the sacrifices that so many people are making right now, I am always searching for sources of inspiration and I see it in in the people that we've highlighted today and the people on the front line who are putting their own lives at risk to take care of others and I think that you know the thing I know about Michigan and the thing I know about the United States of America is that we are tough. We will get through this and ultimately everyone doing their part is. Be necessary for our ability to navigate that at the quickest possible time, so that's you know it's hard and being at home and not being able to get out and to be with friends and family as hard from the Queen of England who mentioned it yesterday to real people just trying to get by day to day. we're all confronting this and we're gonna get through it together. Governor Can you respond to Beaumont complaints about lack of accurate and available data to manage a hospital load? Balancing sure. we know that. Health System has been inundated. They were the first to get to capacity and they they in every hospital is required to be submitting data to the Department of Health and Human Services. Beaumont actually done a really good job in complying with that. we're working closely with others to ensure that we've got accurate data and that the reporting is up to date. we've always you know we've got a way to go a ways to go, but I will acknowledge that Fema has. Praise the state for getting them better data than some other States so they can make decisions and so we're doing some things well. We've got incredible challenges. None of us has ever been in a situation like this, but I recognize that there's incredible work that's being done and and will continue to to lead on that front. That said on Sunday, 50 -, eight percent of hospitals were reporting PPC and that doesn't really provide an accurate picture of you know Statewide. What's the plan for hospitals that don't comply? I'm gonna ask Doctor Jada Stephen as a chief medical executive. So you're you're absolutely right. We wanna be as a comprehensive and transparent as we possibly can and accurate quite frankly when it comes to our reporting, We've come along way as you mentioned PPE is on our website. We've got beds available tracking that we are one of the only States actually in the country, who's reporting data by by race and ethnicity. we've got accumulative tab. On the website, as well, we have to do more and we're working closely with the Michigan Hospital Association to make sure our hospital CEOs know and have the ability to report appropriately. we're gonna be looking over the next several days as far as what additional data we can get out there. It is incredibly important to be transparent and complete. Governor do you believe that the precautions that are being taken in the state Legislature tomorrow will be enough or do you think that holding session is a health danger? Well, you know, I think that any grouping of people that are coming from different parts of the state and then returning to different parts of the state as concerning and that's precisely why the stay-home orders so important. I'm not going you know I don't run the Legislature. They the Speaker of the House runs the House and the Senate majority leader runs the the Senate. I made sure that they understand how serious the situation is and what my thoughts were, but. Ultimately, that's that's their determination. what they steps they've taken. I can't weigh in on us. I'm not familiar with all of the precautions that they've taken. I just know this, the more people that are out and about moving the the more likely they're spread and because of that and because what our epidemiologist and all of our health care experts are telling us, we know that coming in for a one -day extension probably isn't the wisest thing to do and coming back in a few weeks will probably be Close to the apex and the height of this crisis, and it would be contrary to all medical advice. So if they are coming in tomorrow, I would hope that they extend the state of emergency for longer, so they don't have to come back in the height of when the crisis is really hitting Michigan Governor I appreciate that your focus is on health the health of people in Michigan Hospital care all of the things that you've outlined, but at the same time that this is happening, the state is seeing a big hit on revenue even as legislators are meeting by Zoom trying to put together a budget based on your recommendations. How big of a problem do you anticipate this being and how concerned are you about that? it's gonna be a mess and I'm very concerned about it. I know that the worst thing we can do for our economy, though is to have a poorest set of policies that mean that we're confronting this crisis with longer and having more people lose their lives from and devastating our health care system even more than it already is going to be. That's precisely why we've got to be aggressive. It's much better to have an aggressive. Initial action than to just have things Peter on for a longer period of time where more people get sick more people die in our economy can't get back to normal for a longer period of time. and so I think that's precisely why as people have studied the issue and understand the incredible cost that we're confronting realize that being aggressive is actually the best thing for our economy and that's precisely what we're doing. it is going to have an impact though we're gonna have to make some tough decisions around the state budget. We're gonna have to make tough. Decisions as people are gonna have to make tough decisions in their in their personal lives and in their businesses, we are all going to be confronting these challenges and yet there's no choice other than to be as aggressive as we can now to mitigate the the extent of the problem on the other side. Governor you showed that New York Times map and how well, Michiganders were doing relative to many other places in the country, and yet the case load continues to grow and as you said, it's not a matter of the numbers diminishing. it's just growing a little less slowly, so people might hear that and feel discouraged that we've been doing everything right and yet this thing continues to get worse. Do you get concerned at any point? about a sense of exasperation? And people just throwing up their hands and saying you know what we've been doing everything. they've been telling us to do and there's still no sign of this getting any better. How much worse could it get? Is it time to just go back to normal? Well? of course, I think everyone I think anyone who gets asked that question I would think across the country would have to say guess what we're concerned about that but the fact of the matter is Covid- 19, has been spreading in our state for a lot longer than we ever detected it. We've never had enough Don't have enough to do a robust testing to be able to articulate precisely who hasn't who doesn't have it two people in a household who are both in their thirties and very healthy can have covid- 19 one can experience a slight fever and feeling a little bit like the flu for the other. It can be fatal and I think that's precisely the message. I hope that people are are paying attention and understanding here. We don't know how our bodies are gonna react to covid- 19. We know that if you're elderly, you're you're more, you're gonna you could possibly have a tougher time with Covid- 19. You have a preexisting condition like asthma like one of my children does or COPD like another family member does that it's gonna be harder for you to deal with cope at 19, but there are people out there who are healthy and our caring covid- 19, and don't even know it. There are others who might get covid- 19, and it will be fatal for them and that's precisely why we've gotta continue to take this incredibly seriously with this comes a lot of sacrifice we we know that and it's not easy some of the actions that we've had to Heavily every decision that I've made, but I can tell you when you listen to the health experts and the epidemiologist there's no question that saving lives mitigating the pressure on our health care system that is already stressed and watching you know after some time goes by the Sea, really, what what a difference it's made it takes it takes dedication. it takes grit it takes fortitude and ultimately I think we're gonna find that lab. Actions really contributed to a better outcome. It's gonna be hard to be grateful for the outcome No matter what it is cuz it's already been tough, but the fact of the matter is each of these actions has been really important to support the nurses and the doctors and everyone on the front line as well as the health of the people of our state and the long-term economic outlook of our state Doctor Calvin You mentioned that the field hospital at the TCF Center will open for patients later this week. Do we have enough doctors? And physicians and respiratory therapists and nurses to be able to staff that. and if not where are we going to get those medical workers right? So so we believe at the end of this week, we'll be able to start seeing patients at the TCF Center. It doesn't mean we'll immediately see a thousand patients, but we will have enough staff to start seeing patients as they're transferred from other hospitals. We still need medical volunteers. There's no question about that for the TCF Center and other centers that we will need to stand up. so we're still asking medical volunteers to go to our website. WWW dot Michigan dot Gov slash Fight Covid- 19 to sign up and his female available to provide any kind of staffing assistance for that Center or any field hospital. Prema has been very supportive of us when it comes to to staffing and supplies and building out the facility, but we still will need. There's no question we need volunteers. We're working with National staffing agencies to bring in nurses and doctors and and we're still gonna be needing that over the next several Is Michigan participating in Governor Newsom State Consortium so States don't have to bid against each other, so we've actually had a consortium that we've been working with Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois for a while on actually, so as glad to see that other States are are pursuing working together and you know increasing their buying capacity, but we've been doing that here in the Midwest for for a while and it's been beneficial and we've also been sharing our best practices and referring Additional vendors so we've been working together as a geography for for a bit. a governor preps for you Doctor. What are the questions? it's frequently asked to us is what about people who have recovered people who have been diagnosed hospitalized hospitalized. Do we have any database on that? Do we know how many people have have beaten the virus and is there any value in keeping that kind of information? Absolutely so we will actually later this week be able to start posting data on the number of people who have recovered in the state. I will say as the governor mentioned, it's been less than a month since we identified the first cases and so it takes time for someone to have recovered so we have to go back 30 days. See who's you know doing well. I'm not in the hospital hopefully haven't had not passed away, but we will we believe we'll be able to start a posting that data very soon and it is very important. I mean to your question we wanna know who possibly has antibodies right who can be safely out in the public. Back to work, I think it's also gonna be important that we continue to work on an antibody test that is available in a robust way. There are a lot of people that may have had covid- 19 and didn't have dramatic impacts enough that they needed a test to confirm that they've had it, but we wanna confirm they did and to know that they've got antibodies. You can't take the covid- 19 test to determine if you have covid- 19 later to determine if you have it. and that's why the antibiotic test is really important and so we are working on that Want to build that kind of a database? so we know who among us has got those antibodies, but even if you can identify all of them and you're the doctor so correct me if I'm going too far out here, But even if you can identify all of them, it doesn't necessarily mean you know how long they will have their immunity because of the novel aspect of the virus. That's right and we don't know if the virus is going to mutate. So even if you have the antibody, how how how effective is the antibody in fighting the disease and will you be immune next year? If the Corona buyers is still around, so all that still has to be studied, Governor given the President's remark recently that for for governors to receive assistance from him, they'd better be nice to him. essentially there may be some people concerned about what could be perceived as political tip for tat, But you've mentioned any number of times that you've been interfacing primarily with the vice President and I'm wondering if you could elaborate on that a little bit to discuss maybe the contrast in your interactions with the vice President versus the President himself. Well, President Trump called me last Tuesday. I think it was I've talked to the vice President both days of this past weekend. We've got regular conversations with the Fema Administrator. my team has been working incredibly well with all of our our counterparts at the National level and the bipartisan group of congressional delegation that we have has been fantastic. Fred Upton as one of the people that I talked to the most I think the the ranking Republican and our congressional delegation as well as our. US Senators and so we've gotten a lot. I think accomplish in terms of building a good relationship. You know the stuff that that happens on Twitter is I you know, I haven't spent a lot of energy on that because I frankly we all have to be focused on fighting Covid- 19. We're not one another's enemy. The enemy is a virus that does not distinguish between party line or stateline, or any other divide for that matter and so. I think that you know while people like to focus on that other stuff or not, we just keep rolling up our sleeves and working with anyone who will help. I think that also the vice President having been a governor that is something a perspective. I think that it has been really useful in terms of kinda getting down to the nitty gritty of what we as state leaders need. Federal health officials said over the weekend that they're predicting the peak of cases will likely come in about a week and you've been saying that this is going to happen in late April or early May, what is the reason for that difference and what models are you looking at to inform your decisions and have you been seen changes in those models so a couple of things and then, of course, Doctor Caledon will probably step in and share some thoughts as well, but first and foremost, you know we've never had enough. To have the kind of robust testing so that we've got data that we can feel informs a model that is reliable. That's just a fact, and that's not unique to Michigan. That's a kind of a country wide issue that we've all got number two when the federal modeling looks at what's happening in terms of when the peak is, they can articulate a an average or in general but we're gonna have peaks in different parts of Michigan at different times and so the miles. We're looking at is done by people here in Michigan at the University of Michigan. it is of course, not perfect because of the testing issues and the data collection. but that is what we're working off of and we anticipate that the peak is end of April beginning of May at this juncture, which is you know a handful of weeks out? That's why our our models looking at Michigan specific data. we're working with the University of Michigan. Our model is getting more and more accurate, we believe But again anyone who says they know the specific date where it's going to peak. I just don't believe that's true if it's at this point. But as we get more testing, we'll be able to get more precise with with our modeling. Alright. Alright.