But you know, like I studied past clients and I go to places like this. Mexico city and I, like drilling into money links and looking at the long line of record. That's extracted. We plucked it laced with Mexico or Arizona. I just have to like this one because it was a clear day exclusive shows that this is like child go which the aztecs Mexico lived around and we're in the process of coming up with a But what I wanted to try to do is this. 15 minutes and get the book. I think it does go beyond 15 minutes. It's just tell you a couple of questions that the study of asking us, like I am my my graduate students try to address some of these questions and we'll touch on some of these here in the next few minutes and all of them, but you know one of the big questions is is the current warming which there's no question there's performing going on is it natural or is it part of a longer term plan in sight, and that's a very legitimate question as That's not an easy thing to do necessary things out unless you can look at past records. What do they tell us. The climate and one of the main sources of that spirit to and then we get into other questions like around logs in past climate record, the changes that we see today and are the current rates of climate change Yes, this one. This one maybe and uh there's the performing National and and just Here's, the worst thing you can do is communicating climate so isis put up a messy grappling with this The way this is the people to sleep, but I put it up anyway. This is Estimates guess showing global temperature from the eighteen eighty six 20 eighteen uh. This is based on temperature stations. All over the world most there's hair bars here are pretty big back in the eighteen nineties. So they get smaller as we go up towards the barn and you know, people love to argue about what it received warning or not. It's pretty clear. This morning because sometimes we get down in the weeds and sale of this So here in 19 98 ounce around for bit list, including here at the here and in fact you can even see we cool, since 20 16. But he's. Finally points with cooling it's Super imposed on overall warming trend. Isn't, it In fact, artie's probably look at this Red line that was Here so 20 16 is the warmest year on record from instrumental records or five warmest years on record for the last five years here, so it's pretty convincing that there's warming You look at the spatial pattern, warming. I just did this for the last three years. The last 10 occlusive stands for the same the larger mounds or you can see her over lands. It will bit less forming over the oceans and they pulled over the North of plants in the state and then the high latitudes. I think that we are to receive the most for me and if you don't like swiftly line grass or boring, to look at look at other things like the amount of melt water coming off the second emergency session on Earth, which is Green. This is you know In January last year, you know the margins are the real nice shit see are melting in some cases several months. This is a graph showing the blue line is showing the amount of bump to the This is Earlier and more substantial Years ago, over three and a seat White this is the result of this is one of the passage today You can see the beautiful streets of melt water dumping place And this is really My early research is looking at climate change agreement this is not the scene back to you know, except under very margin. This is getting a plan so This is really pretty bad because all of these felt water when you start looking at all that it doesn't just read reason place runs off the nation and Ends up pushing all that water has to go somewhere and look at Sea level increases three This nine centimeters doesn't sound like much, but if you start adding it up, I mean this is about two thirds of that is due to added water and both won for two or more expense of water. So warm and spans, unlike a lot of So this adds to the banks so we need a big storms like sandy hurricanes. They same time, tight this is easy. It's worse This is actually a former student here for individual bus company lice and then jump over pack. Uh University of Arizona, just to get a result nationally. What a one meter so we've written almost and senators in the last couple of decades. This is what the eastern seaboard look like flooding and that impacts a lot of cities like New York Boston and because it's so important that you wanna go full Kevin foster here and the water All of the ice sheets um 66 it's, a water worldwide, one of the people out there, but you can see we substantially change the geography of North America. We've got some southern States here and this is not a Sea port and today late Look at that over the next hundred years, so maybe closer to a year maybe a little bit less than Still, pretty soon, why is temperature wise. This is getting back to the question posed earlier is this natural is an impotent, even look at the causes Change in the past, all okay no score Try to explain this warming trend that's really accelerated from the Volcanoes who doesn't love that right here's a bigger Russia, 19 91 mountain to Bowl in the Philippines, that productive and so energetic that it took all this particular matter to solve a hair cells and injected them up through the drugs, fear in the stress And it stuck around up there because the stress fear stress and sticks on there and everything hangs up there. There's no clouds, no weather and from the shuttle. Atlantis you can see these beautiful soul fee, but not Right so when sunlight comes in, you get inflation which means that there's, a service so if you look at temperature, is right here. I'm a bit you can see there's a pretty dramatic meeting afterwards down point six 23 celsius or removed almost all global warming that happened since then, but once that stress here at stuff disappeared, then warming to your right And I just put it on this graph, your point out that there's another natural feature that we knew versus longing that tend to affect your your variability finance systems. Well, I mean you, here's 10 people for murder and flooding fears to holder. Say effect on civic and products So, from a pipeline act, wanted you, we can ask, do large volcanic russians effect. Why not. We actually have records and things By looking at sulfur to positive in places like greenland or antarctica, will be have any players. We can actually measure the sulfate it's about background and we contribute as well and the russians so this is a thousand year long record. You can see fewer russians back here thousand add a big pickup here at 16 hundred and other one eighteen hundred and there's kind of a smaller pickup here right around two thousand And it turns out that these two I'm showing them here in this yellow yellow cars here This is terrible look at also But there's, a whole bunch of different people, reconstruction of climate music things like tree rings or and so on. There are different realizations that we can see In a bra and state of the country showed that the same trend there's to support difference Um that wasn't years ago this is sometimes because of many of the climatic optimum. This is when the vikings and standard across the Atlantic, all the way to North America. This is all the little When you police are advancing, can claim that school and you know there are two very old poll, says here. 16 hundred 17 hundred eighteen hundred poorly with lots of volcanic rock and state craft select and or uh other big counties and then in the 17. Hundreds available relapse. That bring its warm salty notes appear to drive climate in matter d so I, if you don't like those quickly lines, you can go as we look at ways to people to pick the landscape. This is uh Dutch master, Patrick after canceling all the Dutch needing round of emails and You can't do that now you can get a lot of information from canyons like this. Um, except the people arrived And if you like, that, how many accomplish circle okay supply and demand right, this is one of the fundamental tenants of economics. This is one of my favorites. We can't use this very often, but I'm gonna show this to you this is the historical prices weakening Europe from one 12 hundred eighty to 19 hundred in constant touch builders for hundred kilograms a weak supply and demand so there's ample supply and price drops right and if there's lots of so people can buy cheap if you cut off the supply Then the price goes up notice here. 16 hundred when it gets cold prices, wheat, um doesn't, just stop it Here in the eighteen hundreds and then in the 17, hundreds of its Laughter really nicely matches that 16 17 There's no holding those can wind down if you're thinking about what caused forming there is this little bit of volcanic activity. Recently and it's about that all else being equal should be I'll give away the story here this is a scene from Greece here you can see the heat. These things that is Now you know, I can hear solar people do worry about some spots, some spots. Things like a diagram There's very great deal are here. He just every 11 years ago. Sunspot maximum minimum and this butterfly diagram showing where they heard on the Sun for any reason or dispute or so last forces greater than Some people think that the sunspot cycle, especially longer term you can see those kind of increases and too much inflation cycle might be responsible for climate change and in general, the more Sun spots. You get slightly more solar radiation that's so small as to be almost revealed, something that should be mentioning this, but I'll point out that the Sun spot cyclists declining since 19 60 same time So the only other thing that we can call on or I go call it is part of their House, like this, is the main stealing curve comes from on the low and the White 300 and 15 parts per billion back and this is a and today we're 411 that's accelerating, increasing C O two about three parts per million per year. Okay our free industrial sort of 17 hundred 17 15 40 start the industrial revolution, big way Co. Two is around 200 and eighty parts per million so that's astonishing that's a 47 percent increase in about to three 50 years in Of course, you to is a greenhouse gas and I won't go through all the mechanics of this. That's happen. Election right now Spice same and incoming sunlight passes through the atmosphere heats. It up. Yes, surface than it is in the upper right part of the spectrum and you get these trying Tom, a quality roles are in case of nothing more complex. They absorb infrared photons coming from the surface in this part of the ask your plans are in the Red back in service for me and so I'm like blanket. Finally, greenhouse but not perfectly so that this is So you have more suited to the atmosphere of this trapped and back down and course from uh long term. She launched a point. If we had a greenhouse effect simply transparent totally, all cleveland's alight. The group would be a lot colder about minus eighteen will be average for women greenhouse effect it's plus 15 so the greenhouse effect is good, just So we can put this all together. This is something that quite a lot of us like to do is try to simulate trying to change the last hundred years. Hundred 20 years or so, and so this comes from the icc report and it's basically showing all the observations about is blackjack in line here and then adding both the Africa journey was a cu to international forces. Some of which I talked about and you can see that there's, a whole bunch of scattered lots of different models, but they basically, I think people need that are less calls in line with That we can do the same experiment as the climate models. We can do it and in this case, what we're gonna do is we're going to remove the temptation. A ceo to make grace and he natural forcing so okay, no son You got a pretty good match ups about meeting 16 and then you notice this diversions where increasing volcanic eruptions may be. The three solar city again that's very small and tributes to the gradual cooling and so we can only explain this big And just a little bit of perspective, you know I'm only 15 minutes, but I'll just point out one place where we get what kind of seeds of this problem comes from here. This is one of the most most places on her. This is film don't concordia we're going to see an Internet where a big consortium with researchers drills three wonders through the ice and even reconstruct just like the soldier in the in the different layers these belts and aspects to So there's, a hundred thousand years of carpeting awesome very between a hundred and eighty eight and 300 parts per million there's dust realtor damage in your Parents too, and by the way, the seal to associate with not the main controller but so see that going from places to places where we cover comparable price In terms of rates Fastest naturally increase was about two parts per million for century. Right here in Today actually proposed to the three parts per billion, but Fast So if you project that into the future see that pushing up the boards and eight 900 That's all I've done Okay so I made a Web site for this event. Um we're always kinda Jean chalks dot com and on that website I have now opened up new um tab in the top right is follow and so as I'm talking today, I'm giving you permission you know your phones and follow anyone that I bring up that maybe you would have some interest in following them and my own personal experiences that I have found there are a lot of scientist and economist and science journalist science communicators that are using social media Reject the charts to every day conversation and so I really have enjoyed my feel like a lot more in touch with um scientist that are being revealed in antarctica and the Mexico and everywhere that are um Well, I would have been right. I have similar speech that they use um some of you might have to close some desktop with your Uh especially probably your facebook, app, but there are And what I found was when I first started in this program. I certainly couldn't explain how the system works and it's very complicated and complex, as you He's just getting started, but by using social media and finding roots and Breaking it down for us that don't understand it it's pretty healthy a lot more If you Because we share a common connection about it's real and it's here Experts agree it's bad and lastly there's hope there are solutions and for me number five is the reason why it's And I think, probably, like you're here to we have solutions, we have solutions right now and so, hopefully we can start over There is a program that's all uh program for finding that, since about two thousand five 99 Serving people and asking questions about and then putting those statistics if you're used to sticks one of their Web site or follow them on social media. Thank you and I wanted to just um I've chosen to choose to share Everybody remember two thousand eighteen My question was do you think of the mornings happened and seven out of 10 Americans said yes, I think we'll I think that's a very significant number and certainly increased uh in the last decade than it did before and then it was before, but seven out of 10 Americans can stay secure significant when you think about how many of us are walking around going to grocery store. But I guess our doing our daily line we're not hearing people talk about it, but yeah I'm going to the survey seven out of 10 people I think serving people were awesome Also asked about other people you know your family friends, coworkers And to me that's a pretty significant if we consider how many of us have it on their mind, what I'm talking about it. So that this is where we are as a society where we're at this place where I think talking about is the next step. so Also gives program for People call them morning six americas are alarms and serve conscious is engaged. doubtful I know that in the past, I have of it in a different category that I think now and I think that's true for all of us But I think it it's helped a little bit as I'm talking to people because I can, I can kind of ask your teeth. Um, which of the six Americans they fit in and that might change the way Beach People are understanding that global warming is real and there often are sure about what to do. That's what I most of the time I really haven't given it any thought. I doubt for uncertain and it's happening and if it is, I don't think it's because humans and then just visit just don't believe that it's a big three Defensive and so between those three that 76 percent because But even this page haven't really thought about it, yet, but I have a feeling they're going to as each of us are That's just not perfect, but we can have conversations and I think that's that's really my Very skinny answering very specific questions that people like you have but the way she's explained the answers. She's never changing, bringing That kind of really Laughter the official isn't onboard I'm advisor saying crazy things like the data is fake or the planet's going to warming. Could you just come and talk to them if you explain the science clearly, I know they get it right. A little bit When we hear people objecting to the reality of climate t, they often use science, you sounding arguments. The data is wrong. They argue or we don't know that we need to study it longer or the throat big mergers, like total pause and try to claims that the satellite data says it isn't warming and attempt to fracture scientific advise. No better way to fall for this little screen, but that's what it is to hide the real reasons, those very same people object to addressing climate change and those very Have a lot more to do with identity and I don't know it and they do with the net and facts that's. Why the facts are not Information will not convince the heart for this miss in that social science shows that it's predicting climate science is related to our core identity. Who we see ourselves to be a world then arguing over data facts connection being counterproductive. People see it as an attack on who they are saying that they're a bad person and sometimes and so they respond to that predictably as any of us would if you're personally attacked by deeming and doubling death Stephen, it just really so so I think I'm gonna have to alter my plan and um but the rest of my slides up on the website. Um and of course, I already have cooking simple follow them. The rest of my plants are going through from a scientist and That are my I think, effectively communicated Helping us Every day, the most important ones I have on their Nasa and noah They really have just amazing graphics and explanations of how the climate system works. That are also short And we hope educational Everyone, though the government assigns quotas having today at five o'clock and today is February, so Christmas thanks guys hard eating food is Our friend here Thanks yes, um I would love to stand in front of you all right now and tell you you're about to hear a profile in courage. I cannot thank you, you're about to hear a profile and reality and hope in an away for because I am not the person should walk up here and tell you what's going on to find change or how I've been onboard for 20 years it's just been my hero Um right off the bat I'm, a Christian conservative who used to be a Republican until the orange one then thank you. Thank you. I don't know. I'm afraid that is taking a part of my soul. That's not coming back, but that's not what I am concerned and people leaving a the lot of you know in a don't get yourself. Parents always raised me be pull up by your bootstraps. You want something you go. Do it yourself right and if you wanna buy some Do you buy if you wanna, if you wanna get in that suv, that big ole s you need to get four miles so we don't want them to if you can that's what it is right is what you wanted. It well, as we go on through time and as I went to meteorology school, not a whole lot of change in my perspective, there are a lot of guys like me there are a lot of guys who just you know and women, especially who are just like alright, let's learn about the atmosphere. Let's go through this process so the way television works is especially you go to the rolla G school and then you start And a small market and learn about the weather in that small market think you care about two to four weeks out that's most of what you care about. Okay your laser focus on that. I talk to you all the time and I talk to my dermatologist and people ask me about climate and many times of my book that is not my world. I can barely get a seven day forecast rain and I hold my finger that was right and then a lot of you guys are doing stuff or looking for fleet week back and now we And projecting what's gonna happen with climate well, that is not the world. I live in And so many television meteorologists and that world does not lend itself well to the way that the climate change argument, because, on both It's unfolding in a way that's political and it is unfolding in a way. There and in many cases many people been obstinate and not wanting to believe in it and now that's now changing solid numbers. We talking about here those numbers are going the way ok so that profits, starting to be solved with information by its the political portion of it and the low hanging fruits of weather events. What do I mean by this Grab individual weather events and wrap around the neck of climate change and you need urologist look at that muscle You look at it. You go over there. Maybe some broader and action here, but trying to grab an individual taxes. Let's, hey and then I don't see the flooding in the midwest right okay. Why do you think West we had a really cold winter in many parts of the midwest. You know, rock, solid and then we have snow, then we have rain right and that rain comes in and washes everything through now, just total warming or does climate change have something to do that could it absolutely could but if the first Out of your mouth as well as what we're getting out this is what we get That's where meteorologist saying we'll wait a minute here we had floods for a long time to have these issues. So that's where that low paying free, that quick grab is something I would encourage you not to There is really compelling date out there we've seen some of that data here. The data is incredibly compelling and you start seeing meteorologist, especially on your meteorologist starts saying we got to pay attention to this so how is that process going on in the year two thousand studies on air video ah La gist 20 percent believe and and representing clothing when we got the two thousand eighteen we're about 45 Right now, where eighty percent 90 percents believing that their viewers care about which is important, it's a big enough okay that is a big number. So when ya La gist, I think, is sort of been slow to the game and I looked at myself in that same. Thank because I wasn't someone who was an early adopter single what's going on here. I was an early adopter of wow This is happening there's so many different things. There. So it was in the system there's, so many things like moisture so many things like the Sun and everything you get. So many different things that go into whether and they going to climb it and it's easier to push it off right. It's easy to say. No, no that's not what's happening there's gotta be another solution. If you much better if there was another solution right every month, there is a natural cycle and next week here comes the other side of the cycle, but as you look at the longterm credit data, it's very hard Case must start cranking up small camp, what's there are people who would be that case too, but um that's not realistic right. So we're just television, God, where do we go from here. Okay. If you see somebody start to see a leak and so I'll give you an example of what we're starting to do that. If I tell you that smoking is bad for you, you shouldn't do it and it gives you cancer how do you would have a problem with you probably not right What if I can, on the air and tell you shouldn't smoke it's disgusting don't smoke. Why have a problem. Yeah. I don't have a problem right. Everybody knows smoking is bad for you so we're adopting a kind of a slow roll here were starting to fun for all ages and it's not going to be data that tells you it waiting yes, you know you don't need. You got one kid and you don't need to seat 16 and right. We know you don't need to do that. So I'm not gonna do that We're starting to do is to take over all data and start to introduce so what is it where is that data as well as many of you know, climate science and of what's going on here in new Mexico. We've got a lot right. I can tell you about this. You know here's how much more warming up and everything else people are gonna place over but if I tell you, we did the data passed the years. Our overnight lows are up between four Concerning concerns me by number well, I mean I was scared to death when I saw that that's another we've got camel rating now a lot of this. We have to time out right so we're gonna do this during the intensity quieter weather wise so, after the springs North, for the monsoons that's we're gonna start using this daytime highs. You don't see as much of a direct correlation for the God hundred degree days and we'll see as much of course, but overall we're talking about here is grabbing some of those data points and introducing and I will tell It will not be the right talk about not a profile in courage. This is some of what I need walking out and trying to make those suggestions to people or the spring in the information as we're we're gonna go we're. Gonna lay out the information and probably not gonna see from us to do this don't do that we have restrictions. If huge ownership groups, we have people that want to fight because that's the world we're in right now is the country right now that everything is And I would tell you and I made this point that holly and I think it's so true. There are many of you that have been at the party for a long time and guys like you are walking like sorry, it was a party just like there's, a party, but a party here for years and you just showed and there's digital cream tip did you know just here right, but there's, a place for grayson as a place to say look you have been for since to me, you and me Just kinda sat outside mainly because maybe you just didn't feel like it was your job and if you didn't wanna know, there now you do so. I would encourage people like you guys who are here for a reason to engage in those conversations to hostile and gauge those conversations were with some people. You think There's, nothing for us to talk about there's no way you're. Gonna annoy you, but it's gonna be. I would encourage you to have those conversations because I think things are sliding in the direction of being more aware of these things because we do it. Another step here that's gonna be a very helpful She is, we all live in a state. It is funded by oil. Hence that's a fact. I mean you know you can look at what the governor's done over the past three months. He's not doing any of that huge oil and gas revenue. So we have to replace that and we can't take that for an shove. It on mexicans who don't have your page We have one of the most dependent States on oil and gas and we have some of the poorest population for the country and the finest that's not easy, but at the same time, if we can find some of those avenues to replace some of that revenue, you can do it. You can absolutely do it, but it's hard and it's the same thing when you look at the Tv when you see what you see on Tv at night our number one goal is our owner Revenue right informed the public, they're all balancing right one for people to get a good forecast, one apparently tell about whatever happened that day some of it. You know, I wanna know about and and then you want to produce a product that you shouldn't appoint I mean it's a buy down what if I just get out there I'm gonna start making my savings to do anything else. I'm not gonna be a boyfriend along these are all balance so I just encourage you guys to think about some of those things that are into it, but I'm going to tell you it we're past the tipping point so the question now becomes what role do we play or worldwide play versus United quite. My role is gonna be information and information about the people the information and They've got to make a choice with the Bring that information out there and open it up to that And I know you do not live in a country now where that's right it's gotten a lot harder. Um right now You know, talking about you only hang around other people that are of your same thought process. That's the way a lot of people And I just encourage them not to do that and where we're headed is, I think you're gonna see more and more of the kind of content which isn't you know necessarily. Gonna be or shattering, but it is gonna be solely over time. That's giving people as much information as we possibly can. It things are going now. There are groups out there now to provide information for television whether counts right. Don't give you if you today will say here, we get the numbers I Like that, scary today, because I've been doing hours, so if you like, you guys going in Doing it on paper and some you just don't know how the data so that I don't love. However, when they hand you, this piece of native it's great is it can give you an Avenue Tuesday. Alright don't cross check the data project that you like, that you get then you put it on here, then you do it so that's something that's happening too, so that's basically, where we are and I, I would encourage all of you, you know if you get a chance to reach out you know to have your oldest, our talking about it more and more and I think that's happening in this market too, and it will continue To happen, but you also have them seeing the bid the job of meteorologist on Tv hear that daily forecasts get that thing right get it nailed down, but we have an update for there is nothing going on hilton. Can sprinkle that information in its sprinkled in and it will be in a you know in talking to Mark on twitter and some other people just and help me to come to come and keep my interest too and I live in about five years in the life that What I see in the state so it's like you know what are you gonna believe Race, hearing or your lying eyes right and so that's where we are And so many of you, we, wanna gonna wanna chat about yeah. There are any questions that you guys wanna talk or yeah, but how are you gonna help me before me, you, yelled holly Ford in here. If the great if you guys wanna talk about Yeah there's no question it's a question we have a whole thing. We have to assess is um where we let people build and all those things too, because some of that stuff is absolutely yeah. Well, yeah, especially when you're talking about some of these places. You see plus live on the ocean or whatever it is like a boy yeah there's. No question a great yeah wondering if uh make sure that but are you in contact with your peers and the other uh stations in this market are you having conversations on these topics So Tv is rather the better so where there is not some kind of meeting of the minds on that and you know what if there's one subject, probably could speak a little bit about that would be one of them. The problem is this we're kind of working on a little something and I have no interest in discussing that with them right at least for right now, thanks to know that they talk about it, I do know that so there is not there's, not a situation there where it's being ignored, there either. I think that's starting to slide over to so So I don't do the eventually with an I think that more and more we'll see Come on it's just Talk about it on your social channels. We just find but I also think to get fruits and Beach is astronomical between, on the air and on twitter or on facebook and I think so, I think we all look a good. You know airing of the information here. You mentioned some polling about uh. You know, opinions and beliefs among meteorologists is that information on polling publicly available where would I find out ok they posted on their website okay yup yeah it's done by them so that they're the main You know uh certification group for meteorologists on onscreen Cia yeah absolutely yeah. I really keep about you know Social society groups and this one well I'm so happy here's uh that I like the you know eating better over climate issues. Obviously, job but for a while, is to markets and meetings and so forth was misinformation from many people and and so, if that gets that Starts to be a priest, then, just that you know um to be a wonderful thing because, as you say, you have you Maybe more people than any of us and that's that I think this one got some climate researchers frustrated with the broadcast community in Atlanta, a lot of unfortunate miscommunication. Yeah as you well know, to when you start taking these advance and stacking them up and all the all the complexity of the event. I think what we ended up running into us very real causes that were some of them are rooted in climate But then, when you see and I'm sorry if you love this guy, but when you see like bill, my jump out and start talking about you know just like what are you talking about. It and so that would drive me crazy because you have actual real points to be made here. Right, but that's not the point it's not it's not a 15 second thing on cnn it's actually a bit more and so that's. Why I think some meteorologist for just like I don't wanna touch this. You know and then slowly over time, the information is becoming so much more mainstream and so much more accepted and understood, that you're able to kind of walk out into that more and more and there is less and less of that. You know they're just big It's all the biggest client none of that matters and it's you know a narrative from way back, which didn't turn out to be sure so I completely agree and so I'm hoping now we're getting into that. That will reach a little easier to get information to information out. It in then take it from there Um yeah thank you for your talk. Um I mean you know all of this is obviously incredibly important. I guess I worry about a lot of the ways that we phrase this in terms of like incremental change of mind. Like little take reins to the system, but one the entire premise that we've got a lot to determine the truth before we act is just kind of looked really like a really really is like the evidence for so many years that I feel, like the political right or the misinformation machine is skewed the conversations that we just keep on having this discussion about Do we have enough facts to act where Israeli we should be on the level of like. What is the right solution for this and I, I can hate how that's just like our political mainstream and I was just trying to like jump to that conversation and then just on the basis that we have to wait until Iran changes their mind kind of comes from this position that we might be okay in developed countries, but while we are changing our minds a lot of people are gonna die across the planet and then, furthermore, we don't know if it's ideological conversation of like how does cap to frame the way that we have this discussion through, like free market media companies that are funded by specific groups and then how does Ultimately frame how we view nature in a way that's just completely distracted I'm just really really concerned that this conversation, anybody and now in a way that protects human lives at stake and it not being like a lumberjack and I'm not a position that you understand. Oh, I get it. I didn't. I didn't disagree with that. We disagree on that, but but I can understand what your point is. I just, I think there are ways and I think this is the greatest country in the world and we can adjust to, I think, a lot I can say a lot of other countries that have done a hell of a lot more than America coming from coming from here, but this is been like amazing figure on the stage here for really long period of time and it's been serious action You, wanna be repeating them at an hour to them merry Christmas best country on the planet, while it is killing people in the global South right and again as an American. I love this country so you're, not gonna have to get in very much so, but we've been. It could be. You know, moving a country. This big it's not. It is not been easy. It has not been easy that you know and I I get it. There so I'm saying that I wanted to acknowledge you because I'm there, with you on the inside and scream but I'm Determined to find a way to be effective and I think I grew up in it and things do slow, but one thing I do know for sure is until you connect with You're not going to happen and so that's the that's the starting for that by the way to connect with people and And find out what's important to them that you share and then from there you could talk I would just respond to that by saying things move slow until they start to move really fast and I think we're starting to see them move really fast in the beginning. Uh. This last legislative session was a pretty dramatic shift from what we've been seeing before and uh quite a number of very important bills were passed to address the climate and so that's a good thing and we're also seeing young people out in the Street in big numbers that's very hopeful And I love that because And he kind of read this, I mean how is the My name is lacey So, lady, like to suggest this The role I don't know I don't know Oh one thing I appreciate about your forecast, which is a lot of uh our um. You know you wake up like you said, and I have a lot of family. You know, forgive a crime scenes they're afraid of uh science in general and I think that's something you do well. Uh you know um back backing up sides in general. I mean uh often House uh the uh different models using it just you know, speaking that some Sunni anything thanks I know That's part of why it happened to us tonight is that when the act comes along right on your phone and you look at it you're like what anybody can see what it's gonna be partly cloudy in 72, a month with my lady that they don't need me, you know why. Why is it gonna be partly cloudy and sunny to man. Why am I scared of a storm coming in tonight and may not generate as much moisture as every bottle set as possible so we talk about those kind of things you're right. You actually the whole media has forced us to go and start to explain it more and more because the more information you have the more powerful In the world, people want give them what they know they cannot. You know they eat it up so give us much information. You can and in the key there's a lot of climate involved in this too, which is taking the daily meteorology and breaking it down into something that makes some sense right. It's the same thing in the climate world you've got to be able to take all the data that you guys have and have it make some sense to people so they can digest it it's the same exact thing it's just the time scales for different but thank you. I appreciate that Rates and I studied a lot about climate change and conflict in Africa, some of the The peaking dying pretty nasty stuff and uh you know there's a danger that of using this a low hanging fruit of vibrant Syrian war was caused by climate change. If you know which became a strong narrative it's just he can't. We backup and it's uh more powerful thing to say you know and sometimes and just generally, especially in the present environment, that serves no Middle ground is very, very difficult to communicate and you know something. I find myself so using that love hanging fruit, just together and shock value. You know, but knowing probably the long term it's pretty counterproductive. How do use them You know I mean I just like that and maybe it's an excuse on my part to but he just it was hard. It's hard when you start, seeing those things where you know there are a million reasons and it may end up there is there is not additional right it's not a lion walking out lying but it's just it could be an oversimplification or whatever, whether it be a weather event or anything else, and so those things are, they just make it more difficult to have some of those discussions and I don't see it as often with really seasoned Climate scientists you don't see it there, where you see it is on these quick snapshot things reward exactly talk about reading you get a three minute interview and you get someone who's has either some perfect knowledge or they're. They paint them in an interview and it's a bit like yeah, but what about this or someone is trying to put him down that road, but at the same time, every situation is different but I do have some weather events it's difficult. I I draw the closest my biggest fear for this state as wildfires by far Write it in talking about you know we start raising that snow level and raising that snow level and all of a sudden. You know you're getting rain at 10000 feet in January which scares the hell out of here because then we're talking about a fire season in the state that goes from April to July and then uh I mean in the way we've the way you look at our forest and you go oh my gosh. These things are gonna explode we're toast right that's the scariest thing to me that's the easiest, most direct comparison to me right when I hear about you know uh Some of these other comparisons that have been drawn, I don't like it as much wildfires. I think that's one right behind workout personal I just want to reiterate that I agree with this gentleman right here. I think we're beyond talking and debating the possibility of climate change that we need to be working and talking more on the solutions and they need to be solutions that are seen to be within reach. You know electric vehicles have come down in price. There is a second hand market and we need to focus on what's going to make the biggest impact I agree that plastic should be recycled, but they are not the issue the issue is possible fuel emissions and the biggest one Besides, power plants for electricity generation R is transportation. We need to be looking for the low hanging fruit, the biggest impact and we need to be looking for other solutions that we can put together in our own life and you know I'm just gonna put it out there. New Mexico, solar energy Association we're doing unearth mastery course now and we're teaching people. How to do this And thank you very much for bringing up the conversation What would you do again It is one that some of the Green new deal comes out right. That's the best thing that everybody jumped on right when they talked about trying to phase out as many places as possible. What do you see is a dessert okay drinks, great tree or a much bigger country. Teleconferencing. I wanna point out the most of my friends who I do not have a slice of friends but most of my friends that I work with in Germany and England don't fly who are my age. They just refused to fly and they find it embarrassing that I fly back and forth to England once again, yeah. I mean They just say, like I'm gonna choose my life when I'm in one place, that I want the planet to exist, but that's it it's not always about finding like a solution. So we can leave these hyper consumers tick lifestyles, it's about finding a different contentment, but I see a big change in that. My husband used to go to one conference a year, one conference here now he's jetting off every every other week That much so, I mean I would disagree with that