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So I'm Mark Cunningham and we are back with another episode of over caffeinated this our fifth episode and if you haven't watched before we say it's like the view but not terrible that's kind of our slogan for the show. so we're coming to you live from the Tailgate Brewery on the Memory Street. that's one of our new things. We're trying to go to different places instead of just in our office often backdrop. Yeah nice backdrop. We have paintings beer I mean unfortunately not yet but we have some here so as usual we have our Ceo and scooter enthusiast Justin whenever they are right but we have a very special guest today Is nationally renowned yet look back over there but he's a nationally renowned talk radio show host is always one of the 50 most influential conservatives in the country but on top of that you kind of a Jack of all trades right Oh yeah. You write books like the mystery type boats Yeah. Did spine novels. You think yes by now and you have a podcast, your son that's a lot more fun and kinda share a different side of you as well. We do any better than this ship Everything the politics, everything but politics it sounds great and we're gonna talk more about podcast later and kind of why you decided to do that but you can Show three to Seven PM on 90 - 97 here in Nashville, Monday through Friday. So make sure you listen in before we start or our traditions to try the coffee. So this is from East Park Donuts and Coffee. We're talking about your House right Justin. That's right East Nashville He's not afraid to go to. I don't like that many hits. There's too many hipsters from deal with it. so one thing is it wanna see how we we Why don't you guys go first and it's always cuz it's so hot outside If you can't tell him much sweat, we're filming outside outside very greatness. Okay so we want to send their jobs. I like it. I will give this one like an eight It's coffee and you don't like you don't even need the creamer or anything So that's why I feel like that's eight point six It's not now we have the experts opinion Please don't Park there We don't wanna lawsuit No that's that's really good. You know my grandmother started ice coffee now Oh yeah I thought she was weird because this is back in the 60 s. This woman was drinking iced coffee. She would make a pot of coffee She let it cool off and then she poured over ice and she would drink it on what the heck is wrong with you and now that I know it's like 40 years before the trip. Oh absolutely. Why why didn't I pick that run with it I know you want to you want to do this? You do that. You can wait. Wait. Wait That's not bad at all I got a big ice coffee person cuz I was sort of traumatized by the window outside Oh yeah. When you're outside, it's really good. My kids drink ice ball Okay Well they're you know they're they're in that millennial age. It's it's nice in the summer then go outside. If you don't feel like you're sweating even more than you already would it's not the whiskey we had when we had John John Richard Bliss you him. I did not care for that but he was fine with it. You can hang with John Nobody can so let's get into our first topic. one of the things that has been kind of a big deal on the National stage has been student loan forgiveness. We have birdie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren For President Alexandria Ocasio Cortez talking about this So we're gonna start with you first of all It's kind of in the main stream. Now we're used to kinda be a crazy idea and now people are talking about like that are actually legitimate candidate for President right? So what is your thoughts on this And I think we all know is a problem there. How would you fix it Well if they gonna do loan forgiveness, I want mortgage forgiveness I got myself in in way too much. You're way over my head with my mortgage. So I can't pay it. Bernie. Please I'll sign up for that one too Here's the deal I went through this with my kids and they were getting ready to go to College when the oldest one was getting ready to go to go to College. So I was looking at different ways cuz like like an idiot, I didn't save up you know I said how much could it be and then you're going to see and of course you know they have the whole scholarship but they lost the first semester. So I'm looking at ways to pay for this and I'm thinking okay so I go to a Bank right and I said I need a loan for education if you wanna learn Both just tell me that I cannot give you a loan for education You have to go through the government and so my kids couldn't qualify for a student loan but I could so the ones who can't pay it back are the ones who qualify the ones with no credit. No job No possible way of paying this back at least anytime soon are the ones who get the loan I couldn't get alone So this is how crazy it is These people don't know what they're getting into on the front end if you're paying if you come out of College with $500000 event No College on Earth. This worth $500000 Vanderbilts right down the Street which is at 6070000 Democrats will probably a hundred I mean unless you're gonna be a doctor or you're gonna be you know I don't know a basketball player or whatever it's just it's not gonna be worth it. So we need to be telling them on the front end but here's the deal. There's a disconnect between these universities and the product because I'm you know all three of my kids when they never stop building 2018 2009 they still building this still your cranes everywhere. There's still tearing up the Middle of the main Street down in there Putin. Also I'm going. They just don't feel the pain because there's not the free market working with it. So they don't have to feel the pain that's right If you tell these kids you can't get it. I'm not gonna give you a loan for 20000 $30000 a year because your credit risk then the University started going well. Maybe we need to lower the price. Maybe we need to stop building so much crap My kids live in That was perfectly fine the next year they had to move after they were tearing five of em down and putting new ends up You know why Cuz they wanted a place where they could sit and have coffee there little coffee shop and I'm holding out crazy my dorm room You know the shower was at the end. All the guys were showering together. It was a place you know when there was a bunk no air conditioning That's the way it ought to be shy of a prison cell College. I wanna be like working bootcamp and then maybe they'll get You know it's gonna take in six years No just tell me this one of the thought Dan Crenshaw, who's the Republican representative from Texas, said This is gonna hurt the people who didn't couldn't afford to go to College. The very people who couldn't get a loan or just said you know what it's better use my condo and ready to work for you Some places making more than the kids that are graduating College but then they're gonna have to pay for it correct and that's what I mean do you agree that they're the ones who have to pay for this thing where the people who didn't think about it before it's not their education and the kids aren't getting jobs anyway. So they're not gonna be able to pay the taxes that we need them to Pay off the student loans that the government sets our government takes it over We need to do things like Mitch Daniels did in Indiana. So after he left as governor he went and ran for due and he's the current President of Purdue University He goes in and says you know what instead of getting all these kids so far into debt we're gonna put our money where our mouth is a school We're gonna give you a free ride. We're gonna let you go to school for free and then we're gonna help you get a job and then we're gonna garnish your wages at three percent per year until we make our money back So now both parties Incentive to get a good job and get an education that will help them get that job. That's the wave of the future. Instead of getting the government involved even more in student loans We need to be doing things like that what he said. Look I was doing all this occupy Wall Street I'm not making this up. There was a guy who had he said. He said that belly ache. He's camped out with his laptop, your against big corporations, but he's got his Macbook Pro and he's going to Starbucks Coffee and he's on Twitter and Facebook, but he hates corporations and he says this student It's incredible. I can't possibly pay this student loans What kind of degree did you get? He said. I got a Masters in puppetry a Masters in so he had a bachelor's in puppetry. First It's a really big issue is gonna be doctor puppet well from Doctor puppet, the College sports. That's a great that's a great transition. you you actually mention something about this but one of the big arguments and it's even on the right. We have some issues on this where people kind of argue with each other should College athletes If they're bringing millions of dollars clear University should they get paid? What what is your thing just start with you on this? What do you think they should be I do. I'm a free markets here and I believe that you know I don't believe in denture servitude in any environment including an education. Now I do understand that we're giving them a free ride and we're giving them other things But I think the double leg has to police all of this stuff so much because of the structure that we have in place, the schools are making hundreds of millions if not billions off. Yes double a certain Is they're profiting off of it yet we won't let the kids make any money and I think that hard their regulations and restrictions on it perhaps, but I do think that if we're using these kids likeness to make money off of them that they should be able to participate in the process. Not so fast Oh Lee course over here Here's the deal the problem with this and I understand and I agree with your basic premise about the free market. The problem is the disparity between the players is gonna rip teams the pieces if you come in As the next Lebron James you're gonna make this then there's the guy who comes in. He's not so good. He's making this all good. All of a sudden the guys driving around campus in a Lamborghini This guy's gonna you go and then of course the class warfare kicks in the teen camaraderie completely falls apart because of money I think they get a great education. You can go to Duke University to Vanderbilt to some of the finest universities in the country for free That should be enough when you if you're good enough, you get on the other side you're not gonna have to worry about money The really good ones are gonna get paid anyway The ones who are mediocre are never gonna get paid whether they're in College or they're not gonna go to the pros. So I just think it ruins College for let me ask you a question. This is kind of a Middle ground. This what do you think about the just not stopping the run the the person ever they want cuz the promise in basketball you have to play one year and play too. They got rid of that but then didn't pay them that seems it's amazing to go in baseball. Yeah I thought what's his name ball was starting a whole new League. What's that noise Oh yeah. With Lavar ball I thought he was starting a whole new life. He's bankrupt right now. I think I think it's shocking It didn't work out. He's such a smart guy so let's move on. We've been doing some exit polling on the mayoral race just a plus. We're gonna be doing our first live political show will be coming in the results. They're racing. We've done some exit polling and one of the biggest issues in natural and across the state is shooters Well that's it. He loves Should we fight all the time and he loves scooter. I actually rode one. It was pretty good. You like it Scooper here go ahead so one of the biggest issues you've got property taxes and they said you know we're gonna pay for all these things but we don't want our property taxes raise So with this going on around this statement this you're kind of one of the big people you talk about projects a lot of that So tell tell me when your thoughts on property tax and what can we do to I mean we have a terrible budget problem. You're in Nashville right now. What can we do to close that without raising that stop spending so much. I mean I hate the property tax is one of the worst taxes because when you say well you own your House and then you finish painful you never on your ass You don't pay your property taxes Come get it so you don't really ever own your House as long as you gotta be a property tax every year having said that we'd have to restructure all of the tax system to find a way to fill the void But the deal is you should never have to raise the percentage of a property tax It is an automatic increase with inflation tax You should never have to raise and people say well, we need more money Well was it now I mean eventually with your logic, you gotta go to a hundred percent of the property as a property that we should never have to raise that or sales tax and any entity whether it's a state or whether it's a city that's having a razor One of them is because of mismatched with the paper, this crappy art I mean as a city gonna work. The naked statues of the Web started a guy called the show, he said. Looks like somebody else fire on Hank Williams Jr We got a great view of it right here Striking all so Justin, what do you think? What do you think it could be done about property taxes? Well, something's gotta be damming We did some research in just the last three months alone I can remains over a dozen different local governments have proposed in total more than 200 million dollars in property taxes It's not like we're struggling as a state. We got a great roaring economy our state over the last since 2012 when we got rid of the death tax has cut over three billion dollars in taxes and return that back to the taxpayer pockets yet the local government Irving is because they have a spending addiction and I a revenue problem We got to stop the government is there to do only what the private sector won't can't do and if you you go by that mantra and you won't get in trouble if you start building building sports stadiums because they always gonna bring in revenue it may or may not, but it's not the role of the government. That's the private sector If we can get elected officials to understand that their role is to only do with the private sector can't provide like roads and military and pointing Then we got it made and then we wouldn't have a budget We've been allowed corporate welfare here too on that as well. We're very good Stadium subsidies So let's talk about a little bit more fun topic Amazon Prime Day was two days ago and if you can see I actually got I bought this socks and a real look at that I'm gonna break everything to show that so talking about we all shop on Amazon and buy a lot of stuff we don't need So I'm interested What is the dumbest purchase you ever made? I bought A hundred Slim James wants because they're on sale It's hard to deal with those sales. So what is the dumbest thing you bought on Amazon? This is you boy. You're like God. Why did I spend money on that That was gonna be mine but well their limitations are worse. They were Turkey jerky because I thought you know what I like jerky this is healthier when I traveled a little travel size and others in my bag and then get on the plane and almost throw up on the plane because they're so gross. So I've got 90 - nine left just like put them on ebay. I sell for half the price. It will be great. What about you have you ever bought something really weird on on Amazon I have I don't think I have I have to go back and look at my orders. You know when you go back Crap your physical conservatives like I mean I only buy what I need you know I mean like last thing I bought was a bilge pump for the boat so and then end up buying the wrong one. So that's you know that's the dumbest thing I gotta send it back but no Prime day It was interesting because my headphones broke. I have this wonderful The best sounding headphones in the world with the band on the top is gentle as you can be opening these things up eventually breaks. I've talked to the people. I said you gotta fix this fall My headphones broke about two days before Prime Day so as some new headphones so you wanna buy your own headphones Oh yeah. Well, they provide some headphones but you don't wanna use it and you don't know who else has been using No, I went to buy some headphones and I'm looking on Amazon Prime and boy you can save $5 on two - hundred - dollar hippo What a deal would be freaking do. So I think I'll wait. I don't wanna make a snap decision. Maybe Black Friday is usually a lot of great deals black Friday. If you can wait that long and they had they had Prime day for two days this time they did absolutely yeah Prime days Yeah. That's really good. Those set for 130. Headphone set for 130. I think you missed out Yeah I'll be your personal shopper will buy these these. Let me tell you kids at these beats are crap I'm just as from a professional broadcaster beats or garbage. Don't buy beats headphone. Sorry Jay Z's. Cool cool Yeah Jay Z is always sending this selling newspapers go here music I mean I see a different wave. I'm going my God was Beyonce Jay Z standing on a Street corner. Many times are bad and the rapist Good so we always think of what show you're watching. We gotta tell you you say we'll show you watch that point but because Phil kind of thing with sitcoms and his son talked about that at length on this on the podcast Pod goods. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you what is your favorite sitcom of all time that people should be watching if they're not and you have to tell them the reason why I think the Andy Griffith show is the most perfect sitcom of all time because you can go back and watch that it's not a stream of jokes. It's exactly what sick I was situational comedy It is so funny It is it holds up after 5060 years I just think the Andy Griffith show when Don Knots was on there cuz I think he was a comedic genius on that show and not so much on three 's company and there's credible mister Olympia stuff. But but I I think the Andy Griffith show is my guilt. What would you say is a good one today. The best one since the 90 s like friends or I think Seinfeld Seinfeld is hilarious and as I said the podcast, yeah sort of pioneered sign. There was a summer replacement. I was watching. I think three other people in the country Washington nobody was And they almost didn't bring it back to that at all and so I started telling him, they said. You know I started reading I don't like sign feels coming back I told my whole family. I said watch the show and then when they all started watching I stop you know cuz I don't wanna be watching with everybody else Families responsible for ice coffee and sign felt came for America. We live in right now So just just horrible place to live. I know the Valentine family think about that Yeah. What about you Definitely the best show in the history of the world Wow actually wrote a College paper in with some English class about sign field because it's so great and the good thing about because it's so different than any other show. You know every other. So you've got the happy ending with this There's a moral to the story and it wraps it all up in a bow sign field destroyed all of that and just essentially said we're gonna follow for horrible people through life We were really doing nothing but just living their life and there's gonna be no moral. There's gonna be no parable. It's just Be what it is and I think that was genius and obviously all of those guys are extraordinarily wealthy because of it exactly now in addition to inviting ice coffee in discovering sign I just gotta fill the store this true story when Murphy Brown was on I I submitted a script for an episode and they didn't take it and that same script ended up Alzheimer bill No Oh yeah show was it you can't remember not well I didn't get credit for it like I just saw your ideas. They stole my idea. My idea will remember Frank on Murphy Brown is that he was mistaken Gay and then the whole thing and then they did the same thing as I did with the Georgian Yeah with the Georgia Jerry, I'm going come on now and if there's anything wrong with it so okay so you're actually your right or two sides and also I don't watch the show but they tell me how it stands a wallet that I've never watched episode but everyone tells him he stands a wallet so I'm gonna do my rant real quick which we do every week or every month and I ran about how I like Nickelback and things like actually you have to go back to my God That's gonna do a better advantage everyone trashes nigga I'll defend them today. There was nothing but me and him and bikers. I didn't I didn't even know bikers like Nickelback what everyone likes to go back. I think yeah but they're so popular. They're unpopular exactly exactly. Yeah, I'm sorry they sell out every concern Everybody likes them I wanna rainbow people who stand in the Middle of the Street especially on Broadway and they had no self awareness on the airport when they're standing there they don't. They don't think anybody's around them or they're walking slow but they take off the entire sidewalks. You can't walk Either way you're walking the Street you might get hit by a car who knows but because they just are not aware of other people. It's one of the worst things that I can deal with and go to Broadway tough I can't wait for that and in the airport Oh God go to Broadway by the way I I still like Broadway. I'll defend it on weekdays weekdays at 60 'clock. If you wanna see me I'll be there 60 'clock he goes to Phil show with me from I'll take that and run with it. Okay pedestrians who walk walking across to go to the grocery store but they don't want straight across. They walk diagonally for about 10 minutes. Yes. Waiting for you to get get out of the freak anyway I'm trying to shop well the state Nashville kinda figured they had the crosswalk there diagonal but it's all one time she can't go unless I mean nobody follows in direction but that's the way it lets you ride a scooter Yup. That's right Diagonal walkers. We have following the rules with scooters Okay, they fix the scooter thing. I think because they just they shrunk it down man I will admit there are a lot of River. They like bees everywhere Okay so it's gonna be a quick when we do this or that and ask you two people or two things you pick which one you like better in a one sentence description wide We'll start with you Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity I'll see Shawn's an old friend of mine we go way back See you like I mean but if he wasn't for you like listening to more rush Limbaugh Sorry man. I'm sorry. Hold on news break. What do you guys He is an old friend indeed. Right I'm gonna go with Russia. I mean he pioneered you know conservative talk radio still rocking and rolling. It's funny I think it's funny I think Sean would agree with that Okay. Well there Okay. We're gonna be no Sean with their with there you go. That's true. Let me know anybody that's right. We'll do the other way now Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon. You have to pick one I know it's tough We hate more You can tolerate a little bit if you're the pickle I Cannot stand Rachel mad. I was voice nor anything that comes out of it. So Don Lemon huge. He's got a nice voice and he said nice boys What do you got? I can't stand Rachel mad cow either. So I'm gonna have to go with Don Lemon Okay Deep dish pizza or thin crust pizza. We just had here tailgate which one you got thin always okay I grew this Chicago style although oh man have you been have you been to the new? it's not actually been in Chicago. I was in Chicago in the deep dish about threw up. It's I mean it's just it's So fulfilling we ordered a large and nobody can eat the things we once like it's overrated for sure. So I'd love to cook my own in the Green egg Oh wow He's chef So Nicki Minaj or Cardi B you know no Nicki Minaj by launching really Okay. We'll be there you can't pick Hey Cardi B came out against like taxes at some point. I had like a very dirty ranch so I'll go with her Okay I can't stand politics but Nicki Minaj is hotter. So okay there we go I think I agree with that College football You gotta pick one to watch. No doubt College football What's your team It's okay. So you don't really have a team. We got we got Mac Brown bag. That's right. It's gonna be the best 31 team the C Okay so if you take it's pretty hot out here would you take extreme heat will say a hundred degrees or extreme called zero degrees extreme cold. You can always put more clothes on you. Can you only get to a certain point. You can't take it and legally outside you can Serious that's right I'd rather have the heat. Well it depends on when you're in it. You're in the heat up cold. If you're the I'd rather have heat all things that I can't stand the cold Okay Well you better tan and all that so we can tell them that if we say yeah, it's better than mine still Okay so feel we're gonna kinda go before we end here kinda talk about your journey here and you've been one of the most popular people on National talk radio for probably the last 56 years and you're kinda going back to doing just local stuff. I'm interested in decision behind that and or you You excited kinda focus on just the city instead of the entire us and tell me about how that came about Well, I mean a lot of things changed in the National syndication syndication business and it should I got sick of beating my head against the Wall quite honestly you know there are a lot of folks to give me attention and then make sure to get lost in the shuffle Screw it. I mean we go back to doing local rock and talk about the local issues. I mean my gosh you know I came here when there was Bill Bonner is the mayor I mean if you can't make you can't make talk over built Just the name itself if your mayor is boner Yeah. So I said there's plenty to talk about and you missed the Megan Barry fun stuff all that we talked about Oh yeah Which I think she was in the graveyard looking for votes What she was actually doing probably so I think that we were speaking about We were talking about mayors come on. We should please find out so I want you. I've been doing this spine novels and other novels and things like that. So I wanna concentrate more on that and then my my Middle son got out of school with an English degree which is about like a philosophy degree. You know so but he's got a he's got a great voice and good presentation. So my wife suggested we started a podcast and that was about all the same time. So that's what we did the podcast Of course people, my generation hot coach is about agriculture No God. Come on. Go man greatest of all time you know Tom Brady, the goats Michael Jordan the ghost. So we're just great the second one. Well but I mean that's the perfect perfect bridge there. Let's talk about pockets It's a a Super interesting show. So it's you and your son you talked about everything and things that people face on a daily basis You talk about women, you know about dating you know I mean you talk about things that maybe as father and some go to a bar and talk about shooter. Tell us kind of I mean you said your wife is Behind it so that's another Valentine's Day. Yes, he came up with the name. She gave the game ball Okay so she's smarter than you are. We got early but but talking about the show and I mean what it's like to be able to work with your son on a professional level and kinda just have these cool discussion that seem to be really catching already kinda seen article about it and it seems like it's really growing it is I mean it is really taken off and hopefully it's gonna launch him and he he he he can do broadcasting but he read the new podcast and because that's where everything is going and I see that too I mean it's it's where the businesses involving too but yeah I mean we sat and we We're gonna do a political thing where we talked about you know I get my generation. The baby boomers the millennial generation get their take on what's going on and then we did a couple of episodes listen to him I mean he just was not interested He knows about it but he's just not interested so we rebooted and we said let's just talk about things everything but politics and so we did one. I think the first one on Tuesday what do we do with the grid goes down Yeah. You know and then I'm gonna have you go Yeah we yeah we talked about all that I mean actually when they were in school and at the Knoxville we I had a continued you know if the grid goes down where you meet Yeah Yeah Douglas you're gonna go out to wear Campbell Liz and then Campbell you're gonna start heading towards Nashville with Douglas and you know high jacker horses but that's right So we had a contingency plan so we talked about that and then we talked about spies cuz we both love spies and then from then I mean just the topic started falling out. I mean so we we The thing we say well, what is this podcast about? I said it really is about the history of everything We just haven't gotten everything but we're really so tell me how does the art the art is hilarious Oh he does he he basically your faces on a bunch of people who are not you but you know hilarious way we wanna see I said we need to do cover a different cover up for every episode that will set us apart from everybody else out there who else is lazy present company excepted definitely true for sure lazy. So we started doing the first few you know and then he took over and he is so much better at it and then we got him an ipad But if you look at the Disney one illustration, he drew all that you know the whole thing is he's really good artist really cool so he did know caricatures of him and me and me is Captain Hook and he is Peter Pan that was act that was excellent. Okay. I didn't know that oh wow. Okay. So he does all that stuff and it's it really has called some new eyeballs too because man I mean every episode every episode is different every cover artist and I saw people who kinda hate you for other things which I mean that makes sense to me But they really like either like while your dad is your dad is really cool even though I don't like his politics, I really like him as a person so you gotta bridge the gap Campbell said. Several girls especially came to visit. I thought I hated your dad and I actually love it and so I said, Well, can you and so we talked about everything except for politics We never talk about politics and you think it's kind of a way to like show that that divide we have in this country. He's like look, you're conservative, you might be liberal. Look. I'm a good guy. You would like we're not talking about politics. We can get along We got 50 -, three episodes on the thing right now. Look at all that stuff that we can talk about. It has nothing to do with I mean we don't have to talk politics. I do Day five days a week, I'm sort of sick of when I get also you know let's talk about something else. Let's talk sports. Let's talk dating Let's talk dopple Gangers We thought you know it's just a lot of fun things So before we go into the plug, how do they find the show Hot Gobs dot com that's P D O T S dot com or you and now don't go to Goats dot com. There's something right is taking over you know the marketing of everything so you can go to 90 - 97 W dot com Click on podcast. You can only get that but you get all the podcast and everything else and you can download on Like right on the website, you can download shows up So let's do it. I mean I've listed a couple episodes and it's great and I'm penalized anymore so well that's it. That's all the time we have for today but we really appreciate your time Thanks for coming by and next time we have a mayor Glen Jacobs coming up from the Knox County and Glen Reynolds insist upon it from Knoxville and we have a couple surprise musical guest. We'll tell you about later so we will see you next month and Megan beer and what we asked her, she said no











