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Assassinated December fourth 1960 - nine, but they as you can see they didn't get all of him. His son is It's a at this moment. we're gonna do a little conversation, a little bit of a throwback to it to our first year and it's something new as well. first and foremost. I wanna bring out somebody who a lot of folks don't know this, but I actually grew up with this guy and used to have to try to tackle him a couple of times and pop Warner High School and even in College and he was hard to bring down when he went to the NFL and people still couldn't bring him down. I didn't feel so bad Ladies and gentlemen, I wanna introduce Marshawn Lynch. You know whatever you want where you come back. Another incredible incredible artist incredible person. I got a chance to know five years ago. We've been in contact since from from Fayetteville, North Carolina. Musician activist Jacob Well, let me show you let me. Feel cooler so we we figured we have a conversation, you know I know I know Lynch for we probably met on the football field playing Pop Warner when he was playing for the Oakland Shane. I was playing for the for the birthday, Cougars and and our families from the shame part of Oakland North Oakland. so we've been around each other. A lot even got some history there. Oh y'all like really came up together. Yeah. that's crazy. Yeah. I just try to tackle this dude in high school is hard. Yeah. Good luck. and and and like I said, call we met at at this at the inaugural event that we did. Yes Sir. Yeah. So it's great to bring you guys together. I thought that I start this conversation off and just contextualize and we want to talk about sustainability and in in the financial ethics at the industries that we in, you know, we all work at some some form of entertainment. we not activists like like you know to the to the point like Sharon Fred or some of the other folks you heard from on the panel today but but I think. Two men also do their part, you know and do their part in in in very very amazing wage you know but just starting off, I got a general question for both of you. all like like when Y'all was coming up. how long did you all expect to live like just just in projections? I expected to live a long time. Still, you know what I mean like I'm I I know I know what you're getting at. It's a real question there and there was definitely there was definitely the reality the understanding the reality, but but I always felt. I mean almost to a childish degree almost felt like I always felt protected. You know what I mean, like a blessing like even certain situations that would that would happen in the city is just like to ignorant degree. I just would not practice the say, of course you know when to run, you know what I mean, but it will be times when it's just like I just was so intrigued you know what I mean like but to get to your questions like I I I was expected to live or at least hope you know what I mean, but I understand the reality of what you're talking about real question. What you shine for me. It was just you know I'm talking about from the stress to us that you'd be dead or in jail. By 18, so making it so making it to 20 - one was like an accomplishment and I mean that was that was whether you graduated or didn't just I was like a milestone. you know, coming from where I'm from. but overall, like after saying and witnessing a lot of the shit that I did, I mean it wasn't promising. So when you look at it like that, I mean you just hope for So so my question is like both of you guys have had like sustained careers. You know what I mean, like Y'all and y'all respect that feels y'all experience that moment when Y'all blew up, you know what I mean and and for for for a lot of reasons you guys have been able to sustain it, you know can you talk about some of the some of the ways that you've been able to to do that? Sustaining, which which part you mean the your career just I think just thinking ahead. I think that that even back to your original conversation, your original questions like I just always am thinking ahead now that you know now the oldest funny cuz when you check off all these boxes as you get older. If you if you you know blessed enough to like have the success that you want just. Run out of boxes you know what I mean, like right and I need new boxes to check. but but I think just always thinking ahead is how you sustain it. I think a lot of people even in your I could just imagine in your profession cuz I know how it is in basketball. It's like some people wanna be great and and and be the greatest so they mind state is different. Some people just wanna make the lead. that's the highest they can see and and don't get it twisted. That's high like you make the League you already miles ahead and accomplish something that so many people wanna accomplish. but for some people that's as high. So when they got there to work ethic slow down the the decision making God a little shaky cuz they they accomplish everything that they wanted to accomplish. I just always was seeing past that. so when I got a record deal, everybody was like. Oh my God. you know you signed Jay-Z. Oh my God congrats like I'm like I'm looking at that Bank account. And I'm looking at in more than that. I'm looking at what I haven't done and I'm like. I'm not even I'm barely celebrating this. You know what I mean. so so I think it's just like sustainability comes from like looking ahead. You know what I mean like and not being and being very clear on what you want right. Do you wanna make the League? That's a great goal? What is that as far as you wanna get or do you wanna be one of the goats you know what I mean. that's a different type of mentality. I think right right that's right and then I think for me, it was just more so like just never getting. I mean I got this little thing that I live by like every day I wake up. I try to maximize and let that day to the fullest. so every day is like a new challenge for me and you know it give me another opportunity to go ahead and accomplish something that I didn't accomplish the day before and I mean it it. It come down like a little silly stuff that I do to myself like I like biting my fingernails and if I could go a whole day without biting my fingernails, then I feel like I accomplished him. So then when I put some. To the saying to my world, you know and going to try to accomplish that and give me something to go in, you know, put my mind to it and it's like once I set my mind on something I locked in and focused. there's nothing that can stop me and the only thing I could do that is me and I mean nine times out of 10. I'm not gonna get in my way and stop some shit that I want so that's that's mainly how I you know I I continue to you know just to strive and. You know. I say, like not get content. What do Y'all have found ways to to to to raise the conversation around social issues that you're passionate about that are affecting you guys through through your actual work, you know I think about call when you went on tour, you know you know address dressing in clothes that that people associate with people who are who are disenfranchise to Mass incarceration system. Now I wanted to tell me a little bit about that decision in in in in how you you know how you work to give a ways to to to. Issues through your to your art what I was that was like my my homeboy. Adam, who came through the night, gave me the new gym Crow. He gave me that book in like 20. I don't know maybe like 2015 or something and and it was my blowing. It was like everything we we saw and see but just put into factual evidence of of what was happening and it happened to coincide with a time of after four -wheel drive album. Time in my life where I was just tired of like wrapping by myself, you know what I mean, like so much in my career. My art was like the story my storytelling from my own perspective. I always will give you like little little branches or somebody else's perspective, but so much of it was like my personal journey. my personal growth. My personal flaws is that the third and it was a time period when I was like that was not that was not interested interesting to me. What was interesting was like, I had just moved back home like from New York back to. And it was like I had a whole different perspective of the landscape and some of my friends in the situations that like that the revolving door like like has some of the men. I'm just like, Oh man. So that tour was a product of that album, which was a product of. That book and and and and just a desire to like, okay, let me use this platform to tell these stories you know what I mean and and that's it. I don't even you know I don't take it for nothing. I don't I don't look at it like it was some type of heroic thing. you know what I mean like I look at it like no people that actually really devote their lives to like to this. It was just my little one little piece to the to the equation. That's what's up. Shawn. I know you you know what I mean. I know how much stuff you do at home for for the youth. for families, I know you take care of your own family. You know what I'm saying so a lot of stuff that everybody doesn't see but but can you talk about like some of the ways and the reasons why you you you give voice to certain things? whether it's whether it's shouting out where you from or or or or you know even your last time you took you took the podium. You know you kinda got the whole sports world wondering if that ever see you on the podium again and that capacity you know, but you talked about you know financial responsibility. you know what I mean and and and. And how the system is kind of stacked against people that work in in in in your industry, you wanna talk about like how you get the inspiration for that. well, I mean it probably came from what I what I start getting into was until these football camps and you know I was just doing them locally at home and I figured out that I was only being able to touch the kids from my neighborhood. so I hooked up with this group and they took me to to Brazil. And we did a football camp in Brazil and when I had got over there, the kids was like you know beasty obesity obesity and I was like what the hell is that and there was you know they was calling me Beast and I'm all the way in Brazil and I'm like. Oh these kids know you know what I mean they know what's up and then I started looking around and you know I started looking around and and I'm like damn you know what they you know they hood is a little bit more a little bit more gutter than mine. Know they was they was, but there was really getting down and I mean even though it was a language barrier between us, the kids was following instructions better than how some of the kids at home do so what I did was. I started to go on this like I go every year. I go to a new country and I hold a football camp and you know I went over to to. Over in Ghana you know my robe excuse me now Robin and I and I did a water system for a whole community out there so the appreciation that you know that they have for me. It made me start to make me think outside the box like well. I know my reach is a lot bigger than you know just just open and why I'm so proud and why. While from is because I've never seen somebody from open go and do you know some of the shit that I did so when I go out there and I put my step on this like you know what somebody from Oakland came over here and did this so we do have some people in Oakland as about that life and we will get down in the trenches of where it said. But I mean you know that was that was a big part of why you know what I mean. I really started to you know, step up and and and look at things outside the box. If you feel me, we got a saying like you know My vision was only as far as the 580 and 80, and those free. those free ways is basically a box and I mean I never left those I never left that box until I got my opportunity to go and and visit a College. I flew the organ and I was like well, you know I found out it was more outside outside the 580 and 80, so I wanted to touch it. I wanted to explore it. so I mean you know I just really got on and then when I got outside of and I started to see that it was more than what you know what I'm. Saying for the last 18 years, I got hungry for more. so I mean you know, I just started exploring as much as I can. and as I went out there, I started to see that it was more like minded people and then I mean even within that box, we got people like you you know Dame. You know it was just it was. It was a good feeling and I just you know, I just kept chasing that. So I mean we are working industries that that are known to have a history of of of of being exploitative. You know what I mean, whether it's towards women this franchise people, you know what I'm saying people of color. I wonder like how you guys feel about that. you know what I mean, like like I look at I look at the music industry finishes. You know what I mean. It's known that that at the at the top of the few labels that there are you know, I mean the top of the future streaming platforms that they are. you know it tends to be. White male dominated you know and and you see musicians that are young and black and and sometimes not getting the help that they need. you know what I mean and losing losing their lives at a young age or being hot taking predatory deals. I've seen you like like make reference to that. but but I but I asked like you know what are you? You know? what are your feelings on it and how do you you know? how do you? how do you back up against that system? It's a good question. Cuz there's one that's. Decades deep, you know what I mean and and. Me personally, what do I do? I just try to as much as I can educate on a personal level when somebody opens up or like when I probe and and and get somebody like maybe open up about their business or like to your question about deals like I set him up with a with a lawyer that I actually trust like you need to go see this guys see if he can work some out over there. but like in terms of how do you change that? Good boy. Yeah, we will have to be you know this will be a much bigger discussion cuz it's exploitive arm. We we it's so exploited we end up explaining ourselves. You know I mean like that's that's how. That's how deep it is, which I feel conflicted about cuz I'm one way. I'm like man. It's like this young man is getting you know he changed his life, his family's life. You know what I mean on the other side. I see the real results in the streets and in back home and and not necessarily this guy resulted in this. but just the the the stuff we have normalized right like what is what has become. I remember thinking like very. I'm like Oh, I'm like black people don't do heroin. You know what I mean. I remember growing up feeling like that, like oh, no like that's a White. you know that's a that's a White drug like I never had no no experiences with that and it's like come to find out. It's like you know a lot of these young younger rappers like have caught themselves like unfortunately being like addicted to to purchase, you know I mean and like lean, which is like. That's that's a conversation in his own. That's something that they going through and they own. It's hard to get out of you know what I mean, but like but you're a rapper. you can get it. You can always get it. I'm now starting to see the results of of people back home that can't get it so they was on it. They was doing it. There was popping the perks. They were sipping a lane, but it's like and then once they got addicted, it's not easy to get everywhere. Everybody's not wrapping so it's like you hit a certain point where you can't get it and but your body is already fully addicted and if you don't feed it, what is craving you about to go through hell, you know what I mean. so it's like to avoid that hell. I'm starting to see like Oh my gosh like kids. I grew up with getting the thing that is available, which is heroin is like so it's like nobody's out here rapping about. You know what I mean, like that's not cool yet right but the real the real consequence of us, normalizing perks and and and lean. it's not a judgement. You know what I mean at all, you know I mean it's just a reality. The real life consequence. I feel like it's like you know I see it do you feel like I mean. You is it like ethically. I got you. You're not a music executive. You know what I'm saying. I've I've I've met some you know, but I do think it's ethical for like companies to. Sign kids that rap about addition that people not addicted to re benefits of their music and not get them help well. The The clear answer is no, but the next answer is. Capitalism so is is is capitalism ethical. How much responsibility and ethics can you expect a nameless faceless solar company to have when nobody's accountable so a company can commit unethical can do unethical things and even commit a crime, and there's no nobody has to stand for that. cope. Don't gotta stand for nothing. Universal Music Don't gotta stand for nothing Delta Airlines. I gotta stand for nothing. so it's like the answer is no it's not ethical, but then you get into a deeper capitalism conversation, which is like well when you in capitalism is damn near like anything goes, you know what I mean. So like I think it's a it's a deeper conversation. Let's just say, yeah, let's just turn you shine like I play I play football for for the time I was seven to time. I was 20 - one one of my last season. I play I played like a cow and and you know just doing regular everyday stuff. My body feel like I'm 60. You know what I'm saying, just from that time. Just from that time playing in and most of that time was I was playing for free. You know the last four years I had a I had a College scholarship, which was probably less than a minimum You know and you played for how many years bro. I got 13 in the League College and then how many pop winner whoo. Yeah, all together my whole we just gonna put it. I've been playing like I've been playing football for my my entire life. so so and this is also an industry similar to to you know in the NFL. There are no black owners you know and and and I watch you and my other homies play and I see a lot of black people and poor White people. You know what I'm saying, mostly black folks right. Feel about that out of the players talk about that man to be honest. This is a tough situation because I mean you know you gotta think your whole life. you've been playing football. you know for that for that moment to go ahead and and you know to plan the NFL and then you know when you get there. you know all the executives the owners they are White and I mean you know it. it gets to a point where you know in order to to fit in, you gotta learn how to what they guess is called cold. Switching to some where you gotta not be yourself in order to in order to fit in and I'll say to stick around and then I mean you know you don't get too many. you know athletes that actually go into it with the mindset that they gonna be able to continue to be their selves and give the game back to you know the the the younger athletes in order to to start a change and start something differently because most people say. You know it's about getting your money in at that time. Getting your money mean just go out there and play football and shut up. So if you think outside the box you you know you you tend to shorten your career or not get your career started and you know after you know chasing that career, you know after you know putting in all the time in order to get to the NFL you kinda. Do nothing else so therefore I leave you in a position where your whole life you've been trying to get to this point and now that you're there, you don't make it. You had nothing to fall back on and I mean that's probably like 90 percent of the 90 percent of the lead. So if you do get in the lead and you do have let's say a five -year career, you know that's that's another five years and what you put on to your life where you have not thought about what you gonna do when it's over so it It kinda mess you up in the head and you gotta reprogram yourself and the thinking some. Differently and when you don't have a goal like oh, I'm gonna reach the NFL it kinda it drains you and they put you in a different position. so after you've been going for this job to get in the NFL when people telling you to switch and then when you get in the Coast switch and then that don't work out for you and now you gotta go back and find yourself you chasing your own tail. You fighting demons within yourself and it's hard to get out. Because nobody has broke the cycle to understand that we talk about all the time is like a backup plan. But when you see the NFL is so promising and you see all the glamour behind it, you don't you don't think about that and I mean at the end of the day, you know that you you watch what's going on is it's not that they they don't give a fuck about you so as long as you go ahead and and put in the time and. Effort and your the way I see your one what they call it a 15 seconds of fame that they go that they be able to you know to shine on. That's that's another win and they book you know for them. You get your 15 seconds and then you know you pass through the through the pipeline again. when I first got to Seattle in 2010, we had a transaction of 270 - five players And an out of there within one year only 50 -. three people could be on a team at a time and we had 270 - five players that came in and went out and at the end of the day. I'm just thinking in my mind like where are those 270? How many young was black mommy 270? I mean it you know, it's it's it's it's a it's a it's a hard. I mean you know it's it's hurtful cuz you come in there one day like hey, Wassup boy how you doing man and then the next day you come in there like we're he nowhere to be found. so you know what I mean, it's it's a it's a hard game, but then at the end of the day like you know like, I said with 13 years in the League, I had to look back at that and I have to say like. Oh that's business because that's what they put it off to us as like that's business or capitalism like bullshit. You know what I'm saying I just. I just wanna wrap like just sitting with you talking to y'all is it's a trip like. We got so much more. I've never been in North Carolina. now I got Imma come visit you make that shit come through. Yeah and the Carolina's interesting cuz cuz technically they say that everybody's you know if you if you're African of African descent, you know what I mean like chances are they came to that that that Charleston port, you know what I mean somebody in your line and but I just I just really trip off how similar you know. I mean the vibe is where we're from. We're from 3000 miles away from you. You know what I mean the stories in in in in you know. I wanna just talk about cuz cuz you work in an industry where you know you can't get paid legally like with your market your market price until you or you know nearly 20 years old. Essentially you know what I mean and the music I see young kids signing deals. You know what I mean, like like you could post something that to to to Spotify and self publishing and get your money. If if if they you can go pro at any age, you know I remember we play bro. We use down the Street from where we grew up. 60 - eight thousand people came to watch us play bro and we was a garbage team in comparison, the yard you know what I'm saying like and I was allowed. I don't let him fool. you man. this dude was a hell of an athlete man. Don't let him fool you sitting up here like and a little short before you get into it like he got me kicked out of it. He got me kicked out and suspended of a game cuz he cussed me out by the way. so Y'all know this dude was On that field by the way, so I heard he was a demon on the court, but this dude was a DB. He was a demon on the field so y'all don't let him fool Y'all like he was just a average joke. You came off the couch and jumped over NFL players scored a touchdown. I'm done with you anyway, like. What's the what's the biggest concern you perform that? I don't know it had to be one of the festivals like you know they do festivals overseas or even in the stage you might have. I don't know I remember one time since then it's funny cuz I've done. I know I've done bigger but nothing I've done felt this big cuz where I was at at the time I came out on stage with Jay and he was at Wireless Festival and London is my first time over there in London and somebody told me it's 80000 people out there now mad you as I as I got older. And then I would headline in myself. I realized like damn it was exaggerated. You know what I mean like it wasn't no 80, but it felt like Imma just call it 80 cuz when I walked out on stage as nobody, you know what I mean, like maybe you know one percent of that audience might have knew I was less than that, but if it was a Sea of people it just never ended. You know what I mean. So like I probably I've done for sure done more than that. But that's the one that felt like Y'all ain't got no business being out here right now, I came out to do one verse. Yeah. I think about like like I'm I'm I'm thinking about that cuz it's like the financial things that we're comfortable with not comfortable with you know what I'm saying. and and when we we play in front of 68 thousand people, you know what I'm saying, like me and my school, we went back to playing in front of like small numbers. Y'all did 60 - eight thousand at least every week you know and nobody got If I was to tell you you gonna do 10 tour, you're gonna do a tour with 10 stops. 660 - eight thousand people minimum that easy tour coming to see you change your name. just like you, but you're not gonna get it done. As long as I end up, if I end up paying on the back end, I probably ain't gonna feel no way. It's gonna be like. Yeah man you gotta pay your dues boom. Yeah. If I don't end up pay, Imma fall away, you know I mean like I say that to say even the music there's a level of you. You give yourself a little bit further up later. Yeah because I walked out on that on that I open up for Jay Z I might got paid. I don't even wanna say the number cuz cuz people don't take it the wrong way as if he did me a way he didn't. this is how it works. Yeah. I was attracting no tickets. you know what I mean, so I got paid peanuts. You know I mean barely but yeah, I had to pay my. You know what I mean so like but yeah, I mean that's that's not the same situation. What you're talking about is different like everybody's here to see these young men on this field even with College. It's like to your point. Yes, this is slavery. What we're talking about man like this is like kids are working for free. You know what I mean. that's that's it and nowhere else. Would we allow that to happen and like I mean Lynch bro like. Curiosity cuz cuz we weren't talking a whole lot at that at that, you know that you know what I'm saying like in how how much did you go through in three years of College? how much is your family go through that your financial situation could help them prevent it man to be honest. it was it was it was I mean it was tough, but I mean you know at the same time because I was you know five minutes. The Street from the crib, so you know I mean I could I could get to the House and then I mean you know around that time. you know being fresh out of high school and still being at home with you know you know a similar situation like I didn't have to stay in the dorms or whatever because right I was at home. so I mean you know they give us where the like 12 were like 1200 a semester or whatever and you know you you you post a rock with that or whatever, but you know for the. Park Like I mean, I was able to still joke while I was in College because I was still at home and then I mean you know everybody in in College was like they all was like they are you know you talk about the drugs they all wanted them drugs. All of the you know the White people on campus. so you know I I tell my folks like hey they want something so again. I was able to do something like that, but I mean you know it would I feel a little you know in different to the you know to getting paid in College only because you know I've been in the League for 13 years and I seen what a rookie would do coming into the lead and how you know they they just not mentally ready for you know what comes with you know having some having some money in your pocket and I think you know. In College you know if if they was to pay players like you can't just get these young men, there's money without no, you know without no guidance on how to you know how to how to spend money and I mean like I'm like I'm 30 - three now and you know my one of my biggest things was like I I still learn until this day but I had I won't say I had a problem but I'm somebody I like to ask questions. so I ask no I Like how do you spend money like I got all this? How do I spend it though, like yeah, I know to take money out of my pocket and give it to them. But how do I spend money the proper way and I mean you know I didn't. I didn't get to learn that until I was like 20 - eight or 20 - nine and I mean you know when you go ahead and you get these, you know, give young kids money without no. no no no guidance behind it. right. You know you. it's it's like a loose cannon right do I think Yeah, I believe that they should get paid, but I also think that when you pay them, it should come with a manual like okay. This is how you this is how you go ahead and you spend your money though Yeah. So I mean and I and I felt like you could use one in the League when you first got there almost definitely most definitely, but she thought that I had something I have something that was better than that manual. I had turf meals hot Red hot burritos Tater chips and sodas, so I remembered eating. All day every day and was like I wanna eat that shit no more. So if I gotta keep my money in my pocket in order not to eat turf meals, no more Imma hold on to this money until I figure out how to spend it the right way. So that was my That was my manual. That was my guy like hell. No. I've been broke. I'm I'm not about to be broke again, so whatever is gonna take for me not to be broke again. That's what Imma do until I get the game plan on how not to be broken. They're saying we gotta wrap up anything I thought I wanna leave you wanna leave them with color or or no bro you throw a question at me. I got you, but you know, I'm just enjoying the legacy, meaning you real quick man. I think I mean it's it's it's not it's not new to say, but the main thing I think about as a motor is where he was about to do you know what I mean, like I think about that often like. When he was about to get to in the in the power that they had in uniting because yes we we. We have a long way to go as people we got a lot of trauma. We gotta heal from. We got a lot of we got a lot of unity. We gotta we gotta establish amongst each other but even after that, it's like he saw that there was a another Hill to climb, which is the power structure. You know I mean, and I think about that often poor people's campaign. yes and you know they. The problems you know me like they don't they don't want to whoever day is I still trying to figure out who who they are. You know what I mean, but whoever they are. It's like the problems they don't want. you know what I mean. So like I think about that. Alright. Thank thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you both.
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