Hi everyone. it's Chrissy Johann again from the sixth Congressional District and I'm really excited today to begin to present one of a series of town halls that we've had this. I believe will be our 20 -fifth Town Hall since I took office about 18 months ago and today we have a really unique opportunity in our joined by some amazing special guests to talk about education and to talk about access to education and access to information specifically and To talk about that because these are clearly issues of our community they were clearly very present when I was running for Congress and have continued to be so while I've been in Congress for those of you who don't remember about my background, I did spend time teaching chemistry at the high school level at Simons in northeast Philadelphia and then following that spent some time building and scaling an Organization that focuses on early childhood literacy and early childhood development so pre K. Through fourth grade early childhood literacy was something that I was very passionate about and remain so we have an enormous diverse district here in the sixth Congressional district the sixth Congressional District is all of Chester County in the lower part of Berks County. we are very suburban kind of eastward. we are very rural westward. We have the mushroom capital of the world and a lot of dairy farms and as we go northward, we're very urban. We have the city of Redding as part of our community as well. And so what you see there is a lot of diversity of of district but also of people we have really fine school districts in our community, but we also have some school districts that are struggling specifically in the Coatesville and the Redding area on the school district, the largest school district in our district is ready and it has 19000 students in it so the importance of education and now particularly the importance of online education and online resources couldn't be more obvious. And so the pandemic has really exposed a lot of the vulnerabilities and inequities that we always knew existed in our societies, but they are particularly now more obvious and evident for all of us and so today we're going to have two amazing special guest stars. We have doctor Carla Hayden of the library and the library of the the library and the head librarian of the library of Congress and we also have Commission. I've never can pronounce your name ma' am. Can you help me pronounce it or is that right? That's right who is joining us as Commissioner to talk about issues of connectivity and broadband as well. And so before I begin, I thought what I would do is read a little bit about their remarkable backgrounds. Turn the conversation over to each of them to introduce themselves and give a little bit of a preamble of you know what it is that they do in their various roles and responsibilities and then the next thing I would Ask some questions that we're actually submitted to us by members of our community as well so the first amazing rock star that we have joining us is doctor Carla Hayden and she is the librarian of Congress, which is pretty cool Doctor Hayden was sworn in as the fourteenth librarian of Congress on September fourteenth 2016 Doctor Hayden is the first woman and the first African-American to lead the National Library and she was nominated to the position first by President Barack. and her nomination was confirmed by the Senate on July thirteenth prior to her latest post, she serves since 1993 as the CEO of Enoch Pratt Free Library in Baltimore, Maryland, Hayden was nominated by President Obama to be the member of the National Museum and Library Services Board on January 2010 and was confirmed to that host by the Senate as well in January 2010 before joining the Pratt Library Doctor Hayden was deputy Commissioner and chief librarian to the Chicago Public Library from 1991 to 93. I was actually married in Chicago in 1990, so we missed each other. Not much she's an assistant professor for library and Information Services and coordinator for the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago from 1982 to 1987, and she began her career with the Chicago Public Library as the young adult services coordinator and his library associate for the Children's Library from 73 to 79, so she probably has some good book recommendations for us Doctor Hayden was the President of the American Library Association from 2003 to 2004 and in. 95 She was the first African-American woman to receive the Library's Journal Library of the Year Award in recognition of her outreach and services to the Pratt Library She really is a living legend, a remarkable woman. We also have in common that my mother actually is a librarian or educated as a librarian, and my dad is an enormous fan boy of the doctors as well and he literally moved his House closer to the library of Congress so that that he could access the library of Congress. More. So without further ado, I'd like to have Doctor Hayden take a few minutes and then I will introduce our second rock star to us Well. Thank you so much and I'm delighted to be here because when you were describing my background, I hope that everyone heard Children's Library and children's associate and young adult librarian and so I've considered myself as a librarian who's been in partnership with educators from the very beginning and they met so much to my development. And now at the library of Congress, which is the nation's National library and a treasure chest we're making sure that we're connecting to educators to learners of all ages and that we're connecting to local school and public libraries and being there virtually for everyone during this very challenging time. So we have a number of ways that we can engage now. In fact, we have a special website called engage and it takes you through different ways that you can participate virtually with the library of Congress. First National Book Festival presents. It's gonna be all virtual this year and we have a special series that really is relevant Now race in America and we have. Conversations with authors and illustrators particularly are two youth ambassadors, Jacqueline Woodson Best-selling Middle school teacher and author and Jason Reynolds, and of course someone that many of you probably know about Mister Dave Cote, the author of Captain Underpants and Dog Man who is giving special sessions and a number. Of things that people can use during this time to use our collections that are immense to unleash their own creativity. I know that I know I'm I'm I'm unneeded perfect. Thank you. We're just getting used to all the technology here and thank you so much for that awesome introduction and I know we'll have a lot of time with our question and answer period to talk about some of the remarkable resources that you have at the library for all of us to use all educators all people really genuinely who are citizens of our of our nation and even those beyond our borders and shores as well. my next special guest star, I have the pleasure of introducing and I'm gonna get your name right federal commissions. Commissioner Commissioner Jessica Rosen. I got it. I got it this time. it's really a remarkable woman in of herself, too. She believes that the future belongs to the connected and that's of course why she's at the Federal Communications Commission. she works to produce or promote greater opportunity. greater accessibility and affordability in our communication services in order to ensure that all Americans are able to get a fair shot at 20 first century success, she believes in strong communications markets And she. That they can foster economic growth and security enhanced digital age opportunity for all of us and of course, enrich our civic lives from fighting to protect net neutrality to ensuring access to the Internet for students caught in the homework gap. Jessica has been a consistent champion for connecting everyone. She's a leader spectrum policy developing new ways to support wireless services from Wi-Fi to video and the Internet of things She's also responsible for developing policies to help expand the reach of broadband to schools to libraries to hospitals and to households across. Jessica was named as one of Politico's 50 politicals to watch and profiled by InStyle Magazine in a series celebrating women who show up speak and get things done. Jessica brings over two decades of communication, policy experience and public service to the FCC. We are very grateful for her service prior to joining the agency she served as the Senior Communications Council for the United States Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation. And under the leadership of John D Rockefeller, the third and fourth and Senator Daniel in before entering public service Jessica Practice Communications law in Washington, DC, so clearly Jessica our Commissioner. You are no slouch and we're very grateful to have you here. I'd love to hear just a few opening remarks from you about the importance of communications and connectivity, particularly right now. Well. Thank you Congresswoman. It's such a treat to be here with you today and. With Doctor Hayden, he's just a real trailblazer, but of course when you've got the librarian of Congress, you everyone has good books behind them on shelves and I've got a fairly blank Wall. So I apologize for that, but you know we're doing our best during this during these days and when it comes to connectivity, mean this pandemic has never made it. It's never been as clear as it is right now that it's powerful to be connected. You know I remember. This year, I would talk to folks in Washington and Congress and travel around the country and sometimes you have to convince people that broadband access wasn't just nice to have it was need to have but now we've all been told to stay at home work is often an online school is off and online entertainment is online. It's where we meet. It's how we educate ourselves. It's how we entertain ourselves. It's how we even get health care having that. Access is really essential and it's my hope now at the Federal Communications Commission and in Congress going forward that we focus a lot more energy and time on figuring out how to get everyone connected. That's rural America. It's urban America and everyone in between and as we head into the next school year you know shame on us if we don't use this summer to make sure every child in this country is connected and has a fair shot at educational. Because I don't know exactly what the next school year holds, but let's be prepared for the possibility that some students in some places have to live at home. So let's make sure that everyone can get online and I wanna make sure SC policies and policies from Congress can actually make that happen. Thank you. Thank you Jessica and Commissioner and and thank you Doctor Hayden as well for their wonderful opening remarks and the way that I thought that this conversation could unfold for all of us is that we've collected a number of questions from our community and I'll get into some of those questions and their origins for you as well but this conversation will revolve around the recent developments across our country. specifically both virtual learning and related ones, but also the protest. Ongoing right now so our topics will include the resources that are available to educate yourself on the issues of racism and it's history in this country ways to be more engaged efforts to broadband access more equitable the importance of connectivity and availability of resources for mental health and equity during this uncertain time, etcetera so the range of opportunity for your response to any of these questions is as broad as you'd like it to be we have got some questions that we're given to us from a couple of places in our community. One is the garage community and youth Center and all. Boys and girls clubs which are both part of our community and so I have a few for each of you and I'll start if it's okay with Doctor Hayden. I'm Doctor Hayden. How large is the library of Congress and their collection? what percentage of the collection is now available online and how do we access the collection that is online in the collection that is not. Doctor Hayden was on mute. Doctor Doctor Hayden I don't know if we can unmute you. Can you unmute? I think there you go now you're good and I think that I was rooted because I was getting excited about sharing the fact that the library of Congress's collection is the largest in the world over a hundred and 71 million items of all types of full range of formats and it also has materials one half of the collection. Languages other than English and one of the things that we're very proud of and if I could I'd like to bring in our secret weapon, who's not so secret anymore. Doctor Lee Carter, who has for years. developed online resources specifically for educators that help them mine. That's collections with ready lesson plans and things so if I could bring Lee Ann and for that, I really think it would be helpful. To hear from her, let's go ahead and and and unmute Leanne if we can. and the challenges that I was so glad to hear the Commissioner say that the challenge of having broadband access extends to the home and also institutions like local libraries who can provide this and to help educators and if Leanne is on, she is on, I believe she's unused great. Thank you. Thank you Doctor Hayden and I'm not gonna I'm not a doctor yet, but I appreciate that was good. One of the things I wanna stress you know, Doctor Hayden mentioned that the library of Congress is the largest library in the world and our collections include more than a hundred and 71 million items a significant portion of those items are available online. so when we talk about connections to the library, the ability that we have through technology to be connected to the library and to those collections really a significant one of the things that we started doing when. Pandemic began and we all went home was extending office hours and webinars for classroom teachers to participate in to learn more about those collections and the opportunities that they and their students have to engage with them and each of the programs that we have been doing have been focusing not only on specific parts of the collection, but on strategies for using those collections in ways that really get students interested and really wanting to dig deeper. What the library has to offer Doctor Hayden mentioned earlier some of the programming we've been doing with David Coke and with Jason Reynolds we've also been doing some programming that involves well recently Doctor Hayden participated in a conversation with Lonnie Bunch who is the current Secretary of the Smithsonian and they were talking about the moment that we're living in and the responsibility and the role the cultural institutions like. Of Congress and the Smithsonian are playing and should be playing at this moment and what we're doing in this webinar is trying to get teachers to know that these opportunities are existing so that their voices can be part of the conversations as well and that we can learn from one another and you know it's funny. so often we're we're using WebEx and we're using zoom and we're finding that the chat box is becoming such an exciting place for us because we're learning where our visitors. Are coming from you know teachers are telling us. I'm a fifth grade teacher from Iowa or I'm teaching in Berks County, Pennsylvania. I'm in Illinois and they're having these conversations together and that magic is so much a part of this value. we're associating with being connected to the library. You know it's being connected to one another. it's connected to the collections as well as two ideas and lots going on and I'm gonna stop there so you can keep going and then. That's awesome, go ahead and I just to give you a sense of the collections of 61 million items have been digitized, including the papers and diaries of Frederick Douglass. He's very much a subject of discussion now and we have and you can see in his own hand. what he felt about the monument that related to Abraham Lincoln and the slave you can read the papers and diaries of Rosa Parks and how she felt. When she was arrested and what she also felt as a child facing injustice, so these then what Leanne powder and her education staff have been working on is making quick and easy access to these collections that we have that relate to what is going on in the world as it's happening. that's excellent doctor and and those are some incredibly powerful documents that I know are are treasures and being able to access them from anywhere is really a remarkable. A remarkable thing that we have for all of us in our community and my next question is for the Commissioner and it it ties into having access you know we can only have access to this beautiful documents that have been placed online if we have access to the Internet or we have Internet capability. how has access to the Internet change Commissioner in the last decade? What new systems have been implemented by the FCC particularly for school students, and I have a follow-on question, which is. If you're a family who doesn't have access to the Internet at home or a computer uses what are your opportunities there to make sure that that can be aerated. sure those are really important questions. I'll just start by saying 10 years ago, you know going into your way back machine, we were just getting accustomed to having a smartphone in our pocket The FCC called broadband, something like 200 kilowatts. Today we're at 25 megabits a hundred megabytes gigabytes so for the non nerds, what that means is we used to just do a little bit of texting and a little bit of voice calling using our devices But now we watch video we research we learn we hold real time calls like this. We speak to our doctors and health care professionals and we can conduct education using this resource and that's an extraordinary change because we now download our lives into these devices and we depend on them for so much that's important. And commercial life that was true before this crisis, but it's doubly true now. and that's why we have to get everyone connected and you specifically mentioned schools and I wanna bring in libraries too. Yes cuz there's this tremendous program in the United States called Era. it's the nation's largest education technology program, and it's been in place since the Telecommunications Act of 1996. I say that only because wow 1996 was a long time ago, you know I had an AOL account. I think I wanted a Palm pilot, then I mean it's just very long time ago but Congress was really ahead of the curve and they created this program called E right that was designed to connect all of our nation's schools and all of our nation's libraries to the Internet and it was just so so smart and so forward thinking because this program has become an essential part of supporting schools and libraries in every state in this country to make sure that they have. High-speed connections and you know what that does It democratizes Internet access you can go into the library you can use their Wi-Fi. You can go to school and you can be connected. It doesn't matter who you are or where you live in this country and E rates has been a tremendous program for getting people connected at schools and libraries. of course the challenge in this moment is slightly different because these great institutions are not open, but what I'd like to pressure my colleagues at the FCC to do. To take that E-rate program and grow it to meet this moment because we should use that same funding stream to allow for instance, school libraries and regular libraries to loan out more WiFi hotspots. so more people can be connected in more places during this crisis and also when we get to the other side, I think schools and libraries and the E-rate program can be a big part of getting more people connected in more places and I hope to convince my colleagues we can do more with it in the weeks ahead and. I have to say I'm overjoyed to hear you expand on that because the libraries that I worked in benefited greatly from the E-rate program we administered for the entire state and when there was unrest in the city of Baltimore, the public library stayed open and they were the only place that people in the community could get online and one gentleman said. This is the way that I could apply for a job. Thank you for being open and the libraries now are. Very challenged because they are that in community so they're taking their book Mobile Mobile units in the community so that people could connect so thank you and I wanna echo my appreciation and thanks for elevating that conversation as well because in Congress, we have just last week I believe past a pretty wide sweeping infrastructure Bill and infrastructure typically is you know Associated with roads bridge. And tunnels, but in this particular case, there was a very large part of it that had to do with five G and Internet access and connectivity, and I've heard from many of my constituents that they have to drive to their school parking lots to get access to the hot spot or that they're going into you know parking lots of different places that have hot spots available and that's just absolutely unacceptable. It's inequitable it needs to be changed and I'm grateful that the House has passed this wide sweeping trillion dollar bill that has a very big five. On it now that the job is to have the Senate pass it as well. if it's okay, I would like to move on to another question I'm really interested this is for the doctor. I'm really interested in poetry. How would I learn more about what the library has to offer and is the library of Congress's website available in any other languages. Yes to other languages and with our poets, we have a special program on the LLC dot Gov engage and you push poet. And just yesterday I was able to interview both of the poet laureate the most current it's Tracy K. Smith and Joy. for the first Native poet laureate and they are not only. being interviewed and talking about the power of poetry, but they are presenting poetry for a week and specifically about issues of social Justice and identity and what it means to be an American. So we're very pleased to be able to. Poetry and to emphasize this one as Joy said sometimes poetry gives you a way to speak when you can't find the words. a beautiful beautiful sentiment. Thank you for sharing that before we move on to our next question, I have so many this one is for Commissioner RN as we push forward with offering what is now virtual summer camp. we are concerned. Of our families, this is a question from one of our community members may not have reliable Internet access are their grants available for organizations to provide hot spots for families. such a good question. We don't have such grants of the FCC right now, although I'm trying to get us to update the E-rate program, so we can do that for schools and libraries in the future, but at the present moment I wanna point something out many of our nation's biggest broadband providers during this crisis have been making available free and low-cost services to families, especially families with students on the. Reduced lunch plans at the school These are terrific programs and unfortunately they don't get advertised so you have to poke and you have to, but you should call them up because most of our nation's largest broadband providers have some really terrific low-cost programs that can often include devices and that can make all the difference for a young student at home trying to get online and participate in a community activity or education or camp. Yes and and. One of those nationwide providers his home, he finds its home here, so I think you can go ahead and look around and I'm certain that you will find a provider who is interested in in providing as you mentioned to you know free and reduced lunch program, particularly focus communities, which is similar to the community that I've thought at that time and rats my next question is for Doctor Hayden. How can I participate in? Tell your story? that's a. With our youth ambassador as well, Jason Reynolds as well as our American Folk Life Center and we would like you to get online with the engaged page and click on that and we would want you to tell your story not only about. what you're background is and what what what you're feeling and we're trying to collect stories about the impact of the. Time-in history and we want to hear from as many people as possible, I've been having some very interesting conversations and recording my mother, who's 88 and taking her back. So it's a good time to tell your own story but also interview people in your family and your community. and how did they record and then upload is that what happens or is there? Yes and the destructions are on the website. so you just go on and click and it'll take you through it and we try to make it easy and there are ways that there's even a phone number. Long too, where you can have people engaged like that. So it's our engaged page and you just go that and a lot of we'd love to have more young people doing it because they want our digital natives even with limited access and they can help the more of a tour people in their circles to do it. and that's a good activity and you know during this time, we're all looking for activities. and things to use technology during this time. An outlet to I got to participate in the veteran's storytelling project. I went to one of the retirement communities in our area and was able to interview a woman who had served in World War two remarkable woman remarkable story and so these stories are so precious. So I think about that even when I wear my mask that someday I'll be telling somebody might my grandchildren my great-grandchildren about when we were wearing masks, you know and about what it meant to to do that and why we were doing. for the health of each other, I think the next couple of questions are more just for fun, a Commissioner if you already spoke a little bit about this if you could do any project in your current job, a Dream project to make it happen. What would your Dream project be that would help in your current role? Yeah. So you know when I first got to the FCC I visited a lot of these E-rate schools and it didn't matter if I was in a rural community. An urban community, I heard the same thing over and over again kids are connected at school, but they don't all have connections at home and this issue of digital equity kept on coming up and so I started looking at the data I found out. it's not like when I was in school. You know what I need a paper, a pencil and my brother, leaving me alone to do school work now, kids need the Internet Debi in 10 teachers assign homework that has Internet access, but all the FCC. One in three households just doesn't have it and where those numbers overlap is what I call the homework gap and if I could choose one part of the digital divide just snap my fingers and solve overnight, it would be that one because there's something exceptionally cool in the United States that every child doesn't have the Internet access they need to have a fair shot at education that was true before this crisis. It's more true now and it is solving. Is the hardest part of the digital divide, and it's the one I wanna solve most and most rapidly and what we've seen and I'm very in some ways there are silver linings to the pandemic in the sense that it's open people's eyes and expose people to the inequities of that. And so you know we I just had a conversation relating to the school district in Baltimore. We're 25 percent of the kids. Baltimore have yet to log on one time because you can't in many cases and so the losses of. Not just for the individual child, but also for our society at large or just tragic so we we really have a lot of work to do and I'm I'm grateful that is your your personal Dream project Doctor Hayden here Dream project so Well one is that the Commissioner would get her Dream. because I like it because I can really speak to the Baltimore experience of the The. really heartbreaking challenges that those children in that. City would have been in those public libraries at this time and they would have had staff members who would have been helping them and that would have been the place they could be all day if needed and everything and so if I could do something in my position, it would be to make sure that our resources are available digitally that we've reached out and partner with every school and every public library and every senior Center. Everywhere that people who need help could look at these treasures and make a connection to what's happening. today. put the history as Doctor Lonnie Bunch said. Hope is in history. and if people could connect to this wonderful history, it would I think be a wonderful thing. I agree and when I was a girl growing up, my goddess is a historian, which is why he's such a fan of yours and he would talk you know in whispered to hush tones about when he got the opportunity to go into the Vatican. Gloves and turn the pages and and now we all have that opportunity to see in somebody's original handwriting to see the original documents now when truth matters so much we can find the truth. you know we can personally be responsible for investigating and and for finding it so I think that's an amazing goal to I have just one more question for you guys. I would just sort of hopefully a fun question which is what kind of. Surprising to you or that people wouldn't know about your job if you could kind of give us some insight into what it means to be the Commissioner of the FCC and what it means to be the the librarian of Congress. what is that what's surprising to you about that and I'll share mine too? Well, I'll just start because I have to tell you as a career librarian. What surprised me the most was that there's still new treasures to find at the library of Congress it started in 1802 and just about. Every week. a library and curator is coming in and saying wow we found this folder we found this and that there's this new treasures to be discovered all the time that's really cool. It's like a National treasure. but you never know I mean or piece of hair that that you know Beethoven's hair. we have that. and Commissioner what's surprised it would surprise other people about your job well when I got to. FC, I always assume no one knew what it was. I mean I was like someone who is interested in what we do with spectrum or airwaves WiFi broadband facilities all the sort of nerdy aspects of engineering, but what is surprised me is that people care deeply about broadband connections they care about WiFi being available. They're interested in bringing back net neutrality and so many of the issues that I've worked on have become things that people understand and people are writing the FCC now and speaking back to us in droves and I think that's fantastic. I mean it's demo. Action and making sure more people get access to communications goes hand in hand with that. So that's a good thing that is a really good thing and I think it's because technology and access to information that has become so essential and part of everybody's lives and you know before I remember when we bought our first television and I'm not that old, you know and I think that we've really evolved pretty significantly in terms of my most surprising thing, I'm a freshman. I'm I've only been here for 18. Months never expected to run for Congress or any other elected office. I ran for my first and only elected position as a fifth grader for class Secretary and I didn't I didn't win so that was my last experience with this what I would say is surprising to me is I get to serve on the foreign Affairs Committee, the Armed Services Committee and the small business Committee and something I never understood speaking of television is when you're watching the television and you see all these empty chairs. Over the place and you're thinking where is my member of Congress, you're a member of Congress is probably in three or four different hearings at the very same time that they've gone from one hearing where they've been gathered and they get online for their turn to ask questions and then they go to another one that's happening at the very same time and they get online to ask those questions and it's sort of like my kids are of that age that they're Harry Potter fans. It's sort of like harmony and her magic necklace where you're just like spinning and you're going to multiple places that. And so I've always wondered what that meant and why that was. but now I know that person is you know I think I do six or seven miles a day when I'm in Congress, just walking around from meeting to meeting so I I think that that kind of concludes our conversation, I'm very very appreciative to you both and I wanted to see if you guys had any final remarks or anything that I didn't cover before I kinda wrap things up Doctor Hayden. Do you have anything or Lee? Well and might want to jump in to about making sure that we are connecting to educators and their needs so we had one teacher tell us you know this is all well and good, but you put up but I don't have a color printer you know so being in and working with us so that we can really meet the needs of people who are challenged and need to present materials. We would appreciate that. and let us know I think you know Doctor Hayden mentioned a minute ago one of her dreams being you know having libraries opened for young people I. Like for people to take advantage of what is available, we have an ask a librarian service, then we really do have colleagues who are tremendously helpful and would want to be asked to be helpful so when people have questions if they reach out to the library and take advantage of the Ask a librarian service, I know my colleagues I work with some of the most helpful people in the world and they love being able to you know pitching on people's projects and that's part of our job. And and and Commissioner do you have any closing remarks? Sure I mean it's the summer months school is probably not on everyone's front of mine, but it's out there looming. I mean I know that not just professionally but as a parent and I hope that in Washington, we can take that legislation that you supported in the House move it through the Senate and ensure that the E-rate program can close that homework gap for every student in the fall. I think it's within our power to fix this problem. It's not crazy audacious. If we can get every child connected and give them a fair shot at 20 first century success, Thank you and and I I would be remiss if I didn't ask one more final question that I feel like we didn't address as much as we needed to Doctor Hayden. If people have you know, would like to access information, that's specific to this time that we're living in specific to the unrest and the protests that we're seeing in the in the history behind it is there a way that they can access information that you would recommend other than to go to your website. Is there a link or anything else like that that provides those great resources that you talked about in terms of. This is an example of Frederick Douglass. There is a link and when you get on the LLC dot Gov engage page you can go straight there and you can Tweet me and we have Liberian. I have a Twitter and we have blogs and so just tweet and we will connect you to that. Plus we are in partnership. I mentioned this with the Smithsonian and the National Archives as well. so we're all working together to make sure that when people reach out to us. Also refer them to other resources but Tweet me. and I'll Tweet back That's so awesome that you can treat the library of Congress and we'll make sure that we put that in the comments of our of our area If it's okay, ladies, I would love to just sort of wrap things up. I'm very very thankful to you all for joining us in this really important conversation about the intersection of education and technology and communication about the really important conversation that we need to have about equity. To make sure that we all have access to this amazing nation and to the resources that it provides us all and so thank you and I'd also like to kind of announce something that we have just started and we will be launching on July the thirteenth, which is our congressional book club. we will have a meeting the first one Monday July thirteenth at 10 AM on Facebook like here and we will be reading and discussing so way by Lupita Nyong' O the theme of this year's book club is of course race. And so please do join us again. It's July thirteenth at 10 AM on Facebook and we'll be featuring and highlighting that book and we have a really good lineup that we'd love you guys to participate in and so without that with that, I'd like to say thank you again to my amazing superstars that joined us. Thank you very much and thank you to whomever was joining us from the audience in Facebook land. We'll talk to you guys soon.