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Agree that pilot training is important to Boeing yes, and when Boeing marketed the Max to potential airline customers, did they assure the customers that if they purchase the Max, that would be unlikely that they would need to put their pilots through timely and costly simulator training. What one of our design requirements that we worked with our airline customers was to do what we call. Level B training Computer-based training as a design object. Okay, I have some slides. This I have I have a power point presentation from a 730 - seven Max training that one of them marketing officials provided from July 2017 which was a few months after the FAA certified the Max. Can you go to the second slide place? This graphic shows a quote if you look in the box here we have marketed two days previously and a three to four -hour course has now been approved. Mister Muhlenberg after FHA's 2017 certification did Boeing's marketing representatives emphasized the two potential customers that FHFA had reduced the length Training that Boeing had originally expected Congresswoman. I'm not familiar with those discussions. I know, John, if you have any awareness, we can certainly follow up on that question. Okay. Well, let's clear from this slide that Boeing had expected a different number of days of training than what it ultimately ended up with. so this slide here contains text from an email chain on August 2016 from Chief Technical Pilot Mark. Which announces to a large group at Boeing that the FAA approves the level B training and that it was first of all is the entire email can takes a lot of exclamation points. He was very enthusiastic and he noted that quote this culminates more than three years of tireless and collaborative efforts across many business units. you can see the rest of the text here. Mister Muhlenberg Level B designation means the 730 - seven Max was subject computer-based pilot training requirements and not more extensive simulator requirements. Correct. I was Correct for the for the differences training between the models, the the baseline training for the 730 - Seven Max is a 20 plus day training program that includes significant So in a second separate email chain, can you bring up the next flight place? we we are very familiar with this quote by this time in the day. Mister Fortner in November 2016 tells an FAA official that he was working on Jedi mind trick regulators into accepting the training that he got accepted by the FAA Mister Muhlenberg. The push across bowing to limit cost of pilot training requirements on the Max despite the company's commitment to safety and pilot training is is clear from the questions. Heard today the slides we've heard what's up here right now. This is your chance to provide some clarity on how you mesh all of these information with your continued statements about commitment to safety congresswoman. I think it's very good question and that the idea here is that incremental training adds adds to safety. we don't. We don't make training decisions based on economics. We try to make training decisions based on safety and as John pointed out. If it wasn't based on economics, what was it based on that you were trying to push to reduce unsafe operations for for Airlines? So many of our airline customers who received the 730 - seven max. They also fly 730 - seven N G and a typical pilot in a given day may have a flight on an NGO and a flight on a max. and that's what you're saying right now sounds inconsistent with the information that we've been seeing that you are committed to safety and that you're not taking into account the the economic That people would have to do.











