The complete and thorough examination of all the evidence independent of the district, attorney's investigation Make no mistake, there are a lot of hurt there is a lot of hurt In this community today and certainly in the home of the Clark family, our investigation can't change. What has happened, but we can make every effort to deliver a fair, thorough and impartial review which we promised this community when we took on this investigation, we were asked to evaluate whether there is a basis for the officers involved in this shooting to believe they were in imminent danger that would justify Their use of force from our review of all of the evidence, including digital and video evidence related to the shooting, a few critical facts emerged first, the evidence establishes that Mr Clark committed several unlawful acts by breaking the sliding glass door of a neighboring home as well as breaking into cars and that this fact was broadcast by police helicopter Second, when confronted shortly after breaking the door, mister Clark did not follow officer's commands Third, at the time of the shooting, the evidence establishes that Mr clarke had advanced significantly towards the officers he was not retreating Fourth, on the video footage, we saw a bright light near Mr clarke's person. It was clear. He had something in his hand and finally, the officers began firing upon seeing mister Clark advancing and stop firing almost immediately after Mr Clark fell to the ground Our investigation also evaluated some facts that are relevant but did not on their own, determine whether criminal charges were warranted, both officers independently stated that they saw Mr Clark assume a shooting position After the shooting video footage shows officers asking each other if they had been shot After the shooting officers waited for backup before approaching, Mr Clark believing they were in danger After the shooting officers engaged in reloading their weapons, one at a time after the shooting with one providing cover for the other, believing they were in danger of We lay out the applicable legal standard in our report for this case, the part of the standard we need to focus on right now is the following For a homicide to be justified, the person who has committed a homicide must have reasonably believed that she or someone else was in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury According to the law, the law that we must apply in this case here's what we found to be the most critical evidence. First, the officers encountered a rapidly developing situation in which they were pursuing a suspect. Stefan Clark, who had broken the rear sliding glass door of the neighboring residents and who refused an officer's multiple commands to stop and show his hands Clark had an object in his hands which we now know to have been a cell phone and during the encounter the officers repeated spontaneous shouts of gun And third, at the time of the shooting, Mr clarke had moved from behind the picnic table in the back yard, where he was first seen and advanced to a point within 16 feet from the officer. 16 feet. That's about between where I am and those of you in the third row or sitting, but before you get to the camera set 16 feet the distance where Mr Clark was from the officers having been a further distance away originally 16 feet when the officers began shooting and that was established by the star video, the video from the sheriff's helicopter by the Body cam footage and by crime scene measurements based on our review of the facts and evidence in relation to the law. I'm here to announce today that our investigation has concluded that no criminal charges against the officers involved in the shooting can be sustained. I wanna be clear our investigation was confined solely to an examination of whether the facts of this case were sufficient to establish beyond a reasonable doubt, whether it's Was committed by the officers, our investigation and our report do not evaluate or address any issues relating to potential civil liability or law enforcement policies and procedures. Again, nothing can bring back stefan Clark and nothing helps end the pain that his family carries The Department of justice's investigation into this matter as a criminal case is now closed. It took us 11 months to write the story on the last minutes of the life of stefan Clark. I did I know that this is not House equipped Clark and stefan clark's loved ones wanted history to end. I know this is not how our community once any of these stories to end so I want to close by extending my hand So quick Clark to the Clark Thompson family and to those who have adopted stefan Clark or taken to heart the need to write different endings to these stories. This investigative report reflects the story. My team and I wrote based on the facts and evidence before us. We did it by the book and it will be open and transparent for you to read But, let's start writing these chapters we sure, be let's start writing these chapters uh before shots are fired before we're writing a story on the place of grief, anger and anticipation and, let's remember that some of the best writers and some of the best books rise from these tragedies and these places, let's do this, together Our criminal investigation may be over, but our commitment to this community to repairing trust between our peace officers and the people. They are sworn to protect goes on accountability must be a cornerstone of all the work we do and every stakeholder is obliged to participate. Our police, our civic and community leaders and the people of our communities who safety is paramount. Everyone not just law enforcement officers have a stake in making sure that these tragic incidents are less frequent We must all work together to achieve true lasting public safety for our neighbors and our peace officers with that I'll take any questions In the report and support alright nice, what what else is in there. I'm not sure uh so here you see the work that was done by the sacramento police Department it's investigators by the Department of Justice investigators and by the district. Attorney's investigators uh. This is a compilation of the information we receive. This year represent mostly some of the work that we did here, based on much of what we got. What you don't see your see here are the mountains of data and information that represents the uh video The audio uh, sequencing and other data that would be too voluminous to try to place here, but uh you can see was a lot of work. What's missing uh gosh. I I think we did everything we could to turn over every stone to figure out. What we could about those minutes before stefan Clark dying cards right up to and the text messages that the second turn that that's all in the report and that's all relevant anytime A uh, an incident occurs where someone dies where you believe there might be uh criminal uh activity and there might be criminal conduct involved. Uh you certainly will do everything to look not just that the incident moving forward and but you you look at what led up to the incident to see if that can guide you and give you relevant evidence and so that is in this report, as well, but I think I pointed out the the critical evidence and facts that we believe were To helping us decide whether or not there was a basis to charge the officers. You know I'll get I'll, get to everybody. That's just an attorney like make the argument that stefan Clark didn't know that these work out and the question is, I mean did that backroom estimation. We we took all those factors into account. We we looked at all the evidence that was before us and as I said, the critical evidence that we relied upon to reach our conclusion at the end of the day, I try to summarize but certainly we took into consideration all of those different uh matters that were raised Including that one didn't get different conclusion has a loft about. He supports the difference that you know that will be hard for me to respond to, because we've been focused on this investigation. Uh. I urge you to review the report and all the evidence and then you can reach a conclusion on your own. Yes, do you support the House handles or legislation that is going to the Where we're right now, as we speak, working towards changes, uh and I I again, I have to tip my head and thank uh chief on uh for giving me the opportunity not just to bring my team in to do a criminal investigation. But as you know, he was willing to let me through the doors of the sacramento police Department, to review their policies and practices and provide him and his team of officers with our report on what could be the best practices and where they could focus and so we produce the first uh part of that report for him some of those Items that we point out he's already adopted uh even before the report was issued and we're gonna continue and we will release that second half of the report we hope that not just sack pd but uh law enforcement agencies throughout our state and hopefully beyond we'll take a look at the product of this work, because we hope it will reveal what some of the best practices would be and to help us get to the point as I said we're writing, much better chapters about our public safety that's right so many factor that you found the police officers weren't even it threatens It's not one particular factor it's the, as I said, the when you could see the compilation of the evidence and I think it's very important. There's, a lot of evidence but there's some evidence that really can't be disputed and that objective evidence uh form the the principal basis for us reaching these conclusions about what was uh confronting the officers the circumstance. They found themselves a remember. They were there not on their own. They were Responding to a 911 call and then they they got a call on someone who was uh committing some acts that were unlawful. Uh. However, you categorize and they were there to make sure to keep the peace and, as uh the the scene developed. They started to get further reports, including that the that subject had broken the glass of a sliding glass door and We have no idea what the purpose of that was, but there was a uh. Eighty to 90 year old individual in that home. I believe, by himself and so the officers are acting on all this information. They spot a subject. They issued commands to uh to raise his hands uh to stop subject does not uh he the commands and so you can see it develops and it's all very rapid and while it took place over the course of 10 20 It's the actual incident where the shooting occurred was a matter of seconds. They're just so, let's say to cops running at you in the dark. You can't see them very well. They have guns drawn and they are organized to comply you're, saying legally, they don't have to identify themselves as cops and legally. You have to comply so um. We we can't recreate everything in the incident but we do know that there was a helicopter overhead that was illuminating the area where the subject We now know was Mr Clark was in the vicinity and in these yards where the author of the officers in the helicopter could see mister Clark break the glass sliding glass door. They report that to the. If I could finish, they report that to the officers they are uh searching for a suspect, whether it how what happened in terms of what Mr Clark saw we've been never know but the officer spot. Mr clarke shouts out commands Uh and and and mister Clark than runs and the the facts that we see before us over the officers trying to pursue the subject, that's been identified as having been engaged in some activities which are unlawful and so they they pursue him. There any number of pieces of of the story that will never totally uh get, but from the objective facts we can see what happened uh in the backyard uh the video From the video cam shows that Mr Clark is facing the officers, uh he no longer flees. They never identified themselves as I said, the facts are the objective facts are before us and based on those objective facts. We make a determination of what the officers are receiving and how they could act if they don't so that be of the critical evidence is pretty overwhelming in favor of the officers. How close a call was this decision in this investigation was it as open and shut as it sounds here was this a close call. It which way this could go so uh as I said, there There's lots of evidence there are any number of facts I chose to focus on the facts that we relied on most that doesn't mean that there was an absence of facts. Otherwise, but I chose so you would understand the thinking that went behind and and this is uh. I do this as much for you as I quite honestly, do it for the Clark family. So they can understand out of everything that happened that everything that can be raised. How we arrived at our decision on whether or not we could charge these officers to call them yeah there's, a there's, a, a young man who's no longer alive with two sons who won't have a father whose mother I just met with Of course, it was a tough call these are all tough cause. It's never easy. Um, but we have to do the job. That's put before us. Okay I'm gonna make sure I'm going to folks who haven't asked questions so I can make sure I get to everyone's questions and then we'll so back then you and your local it's West great. Thank you very much ok yes, you wanted to write a new chapter in this book, so specifically, there's, two different Pieces of legislation that being in the capital right now there are different ideas about how to Um are you supporting one over the other. I haven't taken a position because, as I said to both the proponents of the two measures and to the authors, I wanted to make sure we finish this investigation before and now I have and now engage and so I will start to sit down and review with my team and discussing with others that the two bills and I don't know if there will be others and certainly using everything we've learned over not just this incident but over the years uh we'll try to weigh in. I don't intend to be a while, when it comes to the discussion of how we write these new chapters that you think should change. You said you wanted to do stuff that you want Sports candy jewelry want a difference. Um in more independent investigation that what is it that you want in your next chapter and so um. I wanna make sure I give you everything I can about the work. My team and I did and how we came to our conclusion about this case. I am more than willing to discuss the next chapters, but I'm not gonna go into a lot of detail now because, as I said, I haven't gone through the bills to the point of making decisions and I haven't made that final call and how the Department of Justice will move to try to write those new chapters, but we will have those conversations because I think everyone agrees that one shooting one death more is too many and so we all have to work together and so I'll be prepared to discuss those right now. I'd like to focus on this criminal investigation and the report that we just issued, that apology that line foresman does not support on this issue. I will support a policy that works for the people of the state of California that is based on best practices that makes it clear that all of us have a role we all have a responsibility in making sure that our neighborhoods are safe public safety is gonna be a job that we all have to engage in. Certainly those of us in law enforcement will have principal response Ability but no one can can be a Wall on this one and so I look forward to having those conversations and I make sure my voice is included in those discussions. Yes, say it again That, I want, I mean, if, if Mrs Clark wishes to and those who are present, which they can't better, that was that was cheap, she was She was great to let me uh chat with her and I respect that she gave me a chance and I respect that privacy just as I said, I have that conversation. Uh after this, uh days over uh. I I'm I'm prepared to engage. I do think it's important that we we be prepared to move forward and I do think that status is not gonna work. Yes, yesterday you said would be coming very very soon, that you know yesterday that it would be today and we're just such a it We, um you know you're checking all the boxes you're you're, making sure your eyes are dotted and our t's are cross. You. Wanna make sure you didn't miss anything. The sacramento police Department handed over essentially their report. Uh quite sometime ago and most of the time since we've been working going through all the documents and our investigators knew most of that stuff because they had been there and it's preparation they've been seeing it and massaging. It as well um then we're we're trying to make sure we cover everything else What's missing what have we not looked at and so a lot of the last weeks months of this really more than weeks is do we cover everything and then going back again and so we could have issued a report probably a little earlier. But I don't think it would be incomplete in our eyes. We could have taken a little longer as well cuz you never know what you're. What you didn't cover but what I can tell you is that um we felt that we had reached a point where we have covered everything we could And um and so we were ready to make their report today. yes And These kinds of tragedies They're tough um I can't imagine either that you officers officer market dollar Iran enter our um Feel like this is over um Okay You know that's a really tough question. um There's no win here, I don't know how to tell you about their uh. We and we've got to find a way to move forward and that's why I was so appreciative. Ms card give me some time today because I honestly think that the Clark family can help us all move forward and I hope we can listen in to be in some of the warriors who help us moving in the right direction and that means working with our peace officers are civic leaders to to get their together together. yes Let me go here and then, over here, um It's been a lot of good. We can So um I think the facts that I've outline present to you fairly um clearly what we found rows of it. Um our report we'll we'll delve into the actions um Based on the evidence that was uh secured about the actions of Mr clarke and of the officers Read the report was really stricken caesar concerns. She workouts are probably there are a lot of people. Reading the teenager now and I can imagine, after today's report, that will be like what is your message to those people who are going to stay and so I want to work with them. Uh we're not done I'd like to expand a whole lot of time with my team doing things that improve practices that improve community relations. That start to engender the the respect the working relationship with leads to the trust that we all need to know that we're all working on this together uh and so I would say uh anyone who's out there who has taken this incident to heart um work with us Let's be constructive there's, a moment here. I think, to try to continue to move forward and Tony general you met with the family and stuff on small today. Did you meet with the two officers and give them a word of your decision. As well. You know it would be difficult to meet with the subjects of the investigation um and so I hope at some point I'll have an opportunity to uh continue to have conversations not just with chief handed some of his personnel as I said, I think the personnel the men and women at the sacramento police Department worst As you can get when it came to this investigation, that what they did to provide us with this information, uh the work that they did in undertaking the investigation. Uh. We found not just professional but pretty thorough and um it's one of those things where uh you you wanna be able to give people a product that they can have confidence in and so I hope that working together to gather the information, but not to reach our conclusions and make our assessments, but, together the information um that we can see Products like this uh but it said it would probably not have been appropriate for me at any point during this investigation to be sitting and talking with the officers. Uh until we have concluded our investigation. Let me go here go ahead. Let me go over here this is let me let me get to everybody. First, before you start asking followup so okay um giving your earlier recommendations all extensive policy changes after suffering this pregnant you're 14 anything she was just out of police standing The two missing and so remember this. This uh investigation was for the purpose sole purpose of determining determining whether there was a basis to criminally charge the two officers. It wasn't to make assessments about the police, department's practices and policies. Um and so the report did what it was supposed to do. It dealt with that very Discrete issue of whether these officers were charge of what happened is what happens in the up to that decision to shoot, not part of what you're about so I suspect there will be a lot of folks who will take this information. Um and do quite honestly, what I, what I've suggested in the past to the Legislature and which is to take the the records of incidents and we've got more than we'd like to talk about that. We can look at and so we can see They tell us and show us and learn from that because I think the best practice is come out of knowing not just where you succeeded, but where you failed and so uh my suspicion is that there will be many who will comb through these reports to try to discern some Uh next next next moves are best practices, but our our job in issuing this report and which, until this moment, we have not been disclosed, was to make a discreet determination. Yes, you're just great in your view, with the city and details for slain, for 48 hours and why are why not be so remember. We we invest Everything we can, I know the district, attorney's office investigates everything they can in must you have to be able to believe that you search for every bit of evidence because you're gonna make a determination that could impact a person's life and so uh. We looked at everything everything including what happened before the shooting, not just what happened at and after the shooting um we've issued our report. I can speak to our report Appropriate the police where she didn't really help us with yeah I'm I'm gonna talk about what we did. yeah But you think it's going to That's the stuff that's you can read the report. Um. It would be unfair to me to try to place myself and mister clark's mind you can read the report. Yes, UN, Mr quadrant have been toxic with women over the war and for the officers to open sites so I To report the toxicology report, uh the, autopsy they are there in plain sight for people to see um. They report to uh what was found in uh mister clark's blood at the time of the incident You can read the reports from general What's in this industry, so out Our policy we're gonna, find a way through sound in um and you know up to the shooting actually shoes okay so let me repeat again because it is uh I'm not trying to evade a question and I'm not trying to go beyond what my scope of what we did. This. This this investigation was very focused. We weren't there to do what I'm doing on the totally removed from the criminal investigation the work that we're doing with a different team, all together because you can't have any interaction uh different team altogether that's looking at the sacramento police Department Policies and practices That team is still doing its work and it has reported on the UN and its first uh portion of the report on some of our um findings about the sacramento police Department and some recommendations. This report and the purpose of today's uh announcement is to discuss solely what we had to do to investigate whether there was a basis to charge officers for criminal conduct We, zeroed in just on that so our investigators do what they're told they're like blood hounds, um they're not looking for another cent. They're looking for the sent that gives us everything we need to know about that incident. So we can make a decision about whether these officers are chargeable so it'll be tough for me to tell you, based on this report and the investigative work we did anything about policies and practices because that wasn't the focus when I talk to you about the work we're doing on the other side dealing specifically with policies and practices, then we can discuss it further and we could discuss now which I couldn't do before what the Investigative report tells us about those policies and practice moving forward. Okay make sure I go to people who have nasty is so dependent investigation, independent of what the meeting was doing reach the same conclusion and what would you say to members of the public. Are skeptical of the independence of this, given the breach within today either differences in your look forward to point to that that demonstrates that independently talked about how it's important to have an independent courts with what would you What would you point to did you guys. Do independent interview officers. What what was different about your investigation. I would first tell everyone to read the reports because they contain all the information and the basis for our our final calls. But we worked off some common information as I said, the sac pd is essentially gave us these two big binders that you see with other information as well cuz you all the electronic and uh data that And other data that we didn't download and put into my paper so we had a common set of documents and much of the same information to go by we're all listening to the same audio and looking at the same video from body cam and from the the star video the helicopter video. So there was a lot of common information there uh. We, for example, as a an independent uh corner to come in to take a look at the autopsy and give us I saw a new set of eyes on the autopsy um, but we share that information as well with the district, attorney's office, uh and so you know, the fact is a fact. I can't. I can't manipulate that fact to be different than someone else's view of that fact. The fact is a fact um that we came to the same conclusion could be because we say we wait a lot of the same objective evidence, but again I'm not gonna speak for anyone else is work I'm gonna speak for the work that my team did the officers the team Uh our team work with the sac pd to make sure that interviews to place not just the officers two officers but all the other officers who were at the scene. The uh, the residents who are in the area, including the course the resident called 911 uh and the residents who uh we're living in the vicinity where one of the homes that was entered at first so all of those folks were interviewed. We try to interview um some of the family members. We try to get a copy of the autopsy performed by the corner that the family had a contract To do the work, some of the information we were able to get some. We weren't and so where we could, we did For which you're busy you guys didn't think that uh that I, I can't be sure because it depends on what reports are there. Uh many, there are many of the interviews were done before we had started our investigation because of the conversation with chief hahn and it took place after the shooting had occurred uh. I took some time to deliberate, whether or not Department of Justice would go in and so they have already begun some of the investigation before we got there uh in some cases I think it's clear Various teams were there for interviews or to collect certain evidence, yet that the mcdonnell, let me go to folks who haven't asked a question. Yeah I'm reading from your marksman to the side and back and not suggest excessive action by the officers. But your report also says the autopsy showed he suffered seven to six gunshot wounds and then both officers fire 10 rooms which House then with this So um, if you watch the video, I think the entire amount of time it took To fire the 10 rounds each was under five seconds. Um. If, if you're looking at the evidence, um you you can reach whatever conclusion as you'd like you have to make sure that for our purposes we're trying to perceive what the officers were saying and what they were seeing was from the video that we see and from the audio that we can hear you see a backyard which I think from side to side of the House, is somewhere in the area of about 30 32 feet they when they first encounter Mr Clark in the backyard as they're running and they turn the corner and they spot him. He's on the other end of the House which is about 30 to 32 feet away. They go back when they peer again. He's now 15 or 16 feet away. So as I said about the about the distance before you get to any of these cameras that are in this room that's what they are perceiving. They also perceive they said And you can see it on the video, a flash of light which one officer described as a thought, a muscle shot or in other words the the flashy C from the firing of a of a fire arm. um But what they do see in the in what, in the short time that that all takes place in is at one moment he's on Mr Clark is on the other end of the home when they fear back again just a few moments later. He's now half the distance of the home towards them 50 60 feet away. They don't they've asked they've shot instructions that show your hands show me your hands uh and they've said gun and so now they're their perception is of someone who is advancing has something in his They perceived a gun saw flash perceiving shot fired and so now they're seeing someone advancing um that's the evidence. Uh without trying to get into their head or inter. Mr clarke said that's the objective evidence that we have uh firing weapons, um If you are in imminent danger, whether you fire one shot or more or multiple shots, you are, if you have the right to defend yourself if you are in imminent danger, someone uh is the imminent danger of death and so um we took all those factors into consideration and try to make an assessment of what happened in this particular case. Yes, talking a lot about the perceptions of the uh the officers they got the word from the helicopter pilot wearing a bulletin does a gun There's, a phone become a gun in their mind, because he's wearing a very does a month there's, a reflection off of the phone becomes a muzzle flash in their mind, because the suspect is wearing a hoodie. I don't see any of that in the evidence. It seems like code words like this person wearing a hood. You might be a dangerous person. My my recollection is that those were the use were the words used by the individual who uh had his windows of his vehicle shattered. It was also the words that were used by the uh helicopter pilots who saw the individual they're giving a description of what they see it's tough when you're Uh and make ends meet about what the sub who the subject is and you're trying to give information and so you give the best information. You can't. If the, if the individual is wearing a hoodie, you give folks that information. So you know if the person not wearing a hoodie that's, probably not the person you're looking for uh but I didn't see anything that try to take the next step to make other reach other conclusions. I don't see that in the evidence, but again you're welcome to look at the evidence. Yes, um one of the things I'm hearing a lot and if you is that leaving aside just to find out who the officers are losing tons of help ports right, releasing a text saying his first Drug user who may have been suicidal, um certainly inappropriate. The larger the sayings and sassy character all right, how do you repair that or how do you tell people if you need to do not trust the fish to take on this. That what you're doing is appropriate. So as I said in my presentation, there were some critical facts. I think objective facts that lead to our conclusion um but I mentioned that there is a whole bunch of other evidence that Forms the basis of this investigation, including what happened before the incident and you always in any investigation you always try to go backwards as well. So you can understand what happened at the time of the incident and then moving forward. Um. I don't know if you could take any example. You want whether, it's a terrorist act that occurs where people are killed and you now try to find out what was driving that person to commit those terrorists acts or whether it's just trying to figure out if uh the breaking of view into vehicles is, is just a onetime affair This is something that is being done by this particular subject, often I mean, if I can answer the question so um so what you're trying to do is establish some facts about the case to hopefully give you a better understanding of what went on and so you always when there's been uh a shooting and someone dies. You always conduct an autopsy. You always do a toxicology report um I don't know of any investigation that would not try to uh pursue and review records of an individual who was engaged in activity that may have been unlawful and then also led to his death and so what what value all that has and how it weighs on ultimate decisions is another matter but collecting relevant evidence that's the job of any investigator and we have to turn every stone over including stones that existed before the incident occurred go ahead. Answer um. I mean you are being somebody who is from sacramento right so you know how you have an idea. Please help me So is that what you're telling me is that you know this may look inappropriate. It may look like an assassin character. The decision to do I'm not sure how to respond to that because if we were to have to engage in an investigation in the future where loved ones die and we only look at the facts of the incident moving and then moving forward, but never look back at what the perpetrators were doing before I think we get crucified, you have to take a look at what happened beforehand. Maybe it doesn't tell you anything about the incident itself, but you have an obligation to turn over every stone to try to figure out what went on because there are not just lives that have been lost but lives that may Suffer consequences and so you turn over every stone. You can and then you evaluate whether it has value or whether it would be admissible in the future in a case as evidence as I said, I gave you the objective facts that I relied on to reach my conclusion. I think you're saying, let me see, let me go to anybody who hasn't asked any questions has anybody not, yes or no question did you already ask the dod ask okay so you reach the same conclusion as the office was any description Along the way during this vacation, we saw between the attorney general's office and the office will be by discrepancies in along the way I wouldn't be able to tell you because we were involved in the investigation. We don't know if what they did. They don't know what we did so when we see the reports will probably have a better sense to you know if there's anything they found we didn't or we found that they didn't, but we were as I said, we were totally independent so I can't tell you what they did. They can't tell you what we did. Anyone else Has not quite not ask yes, yes did you are more investigators independently interview the officers and witnesses completely independent. This afternoon investigators like fire Wall, yeah um and I wanna make sure I'm clear because I, I reviewed all the information from the reports. I believe the officers were interviewed before the Department of Justice uh came into the investigation independently. I have to confirm that though So we have them and that means I have to check to be sure because we came in about 12 or 13 days after the shooting and so on, um uh some investigative work is already been done by sac pd before we got in uh who has not asked a question. It so no, no question yet no sound, very, very heavily weighted towards the video um did you find um the technology so efficient and was a say about whatever law enforcement agencies across the state should be the best the value of the video is it's not Appreciation of what was happening. You look at it. I look at it and you can see certain things that are clear It's clear that you see the officers huddle behind one corner of the House in the back and depending on which video body cam or uh from the surveillance helicopter. You see that Mr clarke has run to the other end of the backyard. You can't see him at some moments because there's a cover a patio cover, but from the body cam around that same moment in time when the officer's round that corner very quickly and then quickly ducked back they see mister Clark facing them from that distance. That I said 30 to 32 feet in the the report outlines the distance With the video you then see within moments that Mr clarke is now halfway to them only about 16 feet away. I should also mention from the video you can see and from the uh crime scene. Uh photos you can see later on you can see that on the other side of the House, there is a clear opening from the backyard to to leave the House to leave the property from that it's just a way there's, a side way to enter the backyard there's, a side way to enter exit so, Mr Clark is on the other side of the House You see it from the aerial video that he enters a backyard and runs toward where the patio covering is underneath. That are covering and we're on with the body cam footage. You can see that there's, a picnic table underneath that um Canopy and you can see from the body cam footage that Mr clarke is standing behind the uh the picnic table at that moment and so the video evidence is as I said, a critical because it's not my saying what happened is not you're saying. Would happen or the officer saying what happened it's the video showing us what's happening could it be better absolutely. Could be better. I mean you're talking about infrared uh images so you can make out images uh. You can't you can't for example, see everything you'd like to see cuz it's just not as good the body camp footage, just critical But it doesn't tell us everything we see if you see a flash. Uh which is critical because of the perceptions of the officers, but you can't tell what that is and if you've ever been in a place where uh farm has been fired and were act, activities are growing rapidly You know you don't know if that's uh flash from a weapon or what um and so all those things are are are part of what you take into consideration, but video and audio helps avoid the. He said she said and to the degree that is discernible and that's the value of it and that's where you see where body cameras will will have played a very important role in this investigation. Okay so let's go back to and we do favor let's, let's try to nail this down now, so I will back uh done and those people around us Or you see this print crude which is please go back to the officers and we will push it um there's, a suggestion that they need army buses to us involved, shooting investigations from the supposed to be doing for every ounce of value and just happy for the yes so that means, on the flame Park um. I mean I I've tried every way. I could to make sure I'm not trying to put myself in the head of any of the Prince Who were at the scene as it's that's not my job to do uh. I needed to take a look at the evidence that I could present to you and others that I could present to missus Clark. um But I was presenting a fact that that property had entrance and exit to the backyard and from the back yard on both sides On the second question and terms of um done give it began on the policy so yeah so we've been suggestions in the just before this yeah you're. There you know that the um investigation of most of these officer involved shooting cases falls principally with the district attorneys. We have 58 counties and 58 eighty eight uh each of them Understands that some point they may have to undertake these kinds of investigations. Um. I don't have the capacity and the resources to try to take over the work of 58 different gays in this one shop. Um, but we're good at what we do. My team is a skilled as they get and there is thorough as you can find and there is professional as you would want and so every once in a while, we will try to Is B where we can to be helpful where we can in this case as I said, I chief on I don't know too many police are police chiefs to do achieve handed and say, come come, investigate. This, please It's it's hard to say, no when a guy is out there telling you, I want, I want you to give us an independent separate perspective. I know that's a pretty courageous thing and so um I hope he would. It would have been tough for me to say no we're right now involved in overseeing San Francisco police department's police reforms um as an independent body overseeing that um we just reached uh a settlement agreement with the stockton unified school district police Department on the way they uh Deal with students when it comes to disciplinary issues, because we uncovered evidence in our investigation that they were treating to many kids as criminally uh criminal Justice subjects versus as students with a disciplinary problem We are in the midst of other investigations of other uh agencies, as we speak and I have at the request at uh based on other request, reviewed some other incidents of officer involved shootings but we don't have the capacity at the Department of Justice to take over the work of 58 different district attorneys uh But I hope, once you have a chance to look at this report, you will agree that when we do, we do a good job. Yes, sir based on your crew and reading text um And that was before the shooting. What was your I intentionally in my presentation, focused on the facts that we found critical to our determination. uh I don't know if I can tell you that my team weighed the veracity of any of the statements made by individuals that were not the basis of our final conclusions. I can tell you that um, as we zeroed in on the facts that were most important in making our assessment, that that was not one of the facts or one of the parts of this investigation that uh I myself Probe further on that issue, for us going forward, one thing is earlier was the review of the Park Is that ongoing is that ongoing sec meeting, yes, yes, that's ongoing We are uh continuing to have conversation with zach pd we're trying to assess uh everything they've been giving us we've been chatting with uh, a lot of different law enforcement agencies and experts in this field and we're trying to finish up this uh the second part of this report. So we can give sac Tv a comprehensive look at their operations at their policies at their protocol, their procedures they're training uh and be able to give them a complete package And so, then they can move as they see appropriate to address this and I, as I said, I hope and I believe quite honestly, that sac pd can become uh a model of how policing is done in our communities. It's a big agency the law enforcement agency, but not so big that it's you know you can lose track of it and so it offers an opportunity and you got a chief was willing to move mountains and so I think that helps yes You have to take on the And doesn't legislate tops some legislators to quality that oh, you know you're only present here