To keep the record clear harris paid Dallas so it's not about your state's infrastructure necessarily on that level. This is about a decision he made with a man who is a known quantity and now there's a chance that he gets rewarded for his efforts with a congressional seat. Do you think that should happen. Do you think that under no circumstances so this man be seated until this is certified well, I say follow the facts wherever they lead uh my understanding is uh mister Dallas was involved as I said in the 20 16 election he's not in which they were there was a similar issue and affecting the Gubernatorial race then and interestingly enough, the same elections official that that made the motion not to certify hear which might have been the right decision for the time being. Uh also voted to dismiss a similar complaint in two thousand 16 uh involving similar activity so uh you know that uh it's hard to know exactly. I don't know who knew what about mister Dallas. My understanding is a various people recommend them or something but uh and then there are legitimate activities to do pursuing absentee ballots The ones we've heard about nope it's by definition, illegal uh and whether or not people who he paid to do it allegedly. If they knew that that's different it doesn't sound from the interviews that they knew what they were getting into. They were just trying to make some pocket money. That has to be sussed out but that takes us to the ultimate question who is the final word here where does the buck stop who has the power to figure out. What needs to happen here. Well, we think in the first instance it's up to the governor of we've asked him uh to establish a bipartisan task force to examine to augment the efforts of the board of elections and to examine And it's entirety, as far back as it goes, perhaps to 20 12 uh and and not just in bin Laden and Robinson counties by the way, uh but wherever it may lead, we need to see statewide what's happening and ultimately, Chris, it may be appropriate to to reform the absentee ballot by mail mechanism that exists. You know that's always. We face obstacles uh anytime. We do something to increase ballot security uh from from various sources, but I think that may be something we have to pursue, but we've got to know what the facts are not just in one particular snapshot or from a biased or Point of view, but, let's see what the full picture is, but you can't let this man becoming a congressman from the ninth district until you figure out whether or not he cheated in the race right. Well and I have argued, as I said a moment ago, it's probably the right decision and fact I think it's certainly the right decision not to certify until we know what's going on, but uh, but what we do need to do is we need to have a full picture of it and it needs to be done as promptly as possible and if it does seem that the race is just as effective and it's ineffective in many different ways. Do you back the idea of a new election Look I think it's so. It's one of the things that can be done. Uh the board needs to approach that decision. Well, the board needs to approve that decision. An even handed manner and the uh pursuing it in the way that they you know the same sort of analysis they've undertaken before uh, but you've got 200 and eighty five thousand. I think votes that have been cast in that race by uh the lawfully and the idea of uh that's that has a significant, well it's you don't know exactly the number but what we're talking about from what we've heard so far the numbers don't you have pale in comparison to that large vote, so you've got The right decision about that and and the state board needs to do it with. With the possession of all the facts and they need to get to it as quickly as possible. We're. Gonna stay on this story and I look forward to having you as a resource on it, senator damn bishop. I appreciate it. I appreciate your candor and your taking the opportunity uh you're in a very elite group on this occasion. Thank you, Chris