Online running for New York state comptroller Green party. Thank you both for coming all this distance so that we can uh hear your platforms and uh. We have a preference on who speak for it used to speak first. Cuz how is more important. One get one like that okay. Thank you. Feet take it away. Um so I tried to be sure How we tries to be belong um But you wanna know why we decided to to run how it's actually one of the founders of the Green party in the United States and I'm one of the founders of the Green party and here at scape uh. So we both have different reasons. Why we run but lot of the same issues that you're concerned about we're concerned about and we have found that over the years that it best the Democrats will give live service to these things were concerned about whether that the 15 dollar 20 dollar, an hour minimum wage and in poverty, going to universal For your health care food policy issues foreign policy issues and that we we don't get you know the type of change that we want. Um for the last 30 years. 28 years in bryan statewide anti poverty Organization called the hunger action network of New York state and we represent it all of the food pantries and soup kitchens in the stage um but we always put our responsibility as a state wide Organization was to represent the three man People who came to our food pantries and soup kitchens and we actually organize another number of welfare rights organizations, low income communities across the state. A including the dude, it's probably one of the best-known welfare rights groups now in the United States to based out of New York city uh called up community voices heard that one of the ways I ran into howie was uh how you've been working American friends service Committee has been hired to work at work operatives and they had uh welfare rights group that they work with the Welfare watch towards wealth and work well, everyone so we did that for you know I did that for a lot of years. Um because uh we were representing food pantries and soup kitchen. My Organization was using the first group that we call for an increase in the state minimum wage because of you know we've had three million people month amanda them more basically, people had a job but we're making enough to make it's me and the unions weren't really interested in the minimum wage um because you know they wanna wait much higher than the minimum wage for their workers were Love that so we have to come in first and scream and yell and you know quest trouble and eventually once the campaign got big enough. We will get the the unions to come in and get us across the finish line because we didn't have any political power. If you were low income people but we could get immediate attention um to the problem and you know help resurrect whole single payer movement in New York state uh one of the things I used to do is travel around the state and explain to people about what's going on the state budget and I would say well, governor tacky is cut medicaid again. We wanna try this. You can get the child help plus program started at the family, all pest program and people come up to me Say, hey, those are all good issues, but that's not the solution and why don't you talk any longer about the single payer. Universal healthcare movement. So I went back to the other groups and were more active with that and said this is I'm hearing from the community. Why are we doing it and basically they said why did you put it back together again and I convince this guy a guy who's ensure this in the health Committee to revamp is build on some of the bear and now we passed four years in a row in the state Assembly, but having manage you have to get it. You know cross the finish line So I can you know, run down a lot of those interested in a lot of work around the the federal farm bill. Um, because the farm bill is where we um fund the food stamp program. Adam um, but we're also very concerned about the whole general concept of food policy that unfortunately, what the farm bill did was um promote corporate agriculture. You know we subsidize basically slash oi, which is bad and corn, which turn into one surfer sugar and it really will be promoted very Healthy food diet very unhealthy agriculture system, um and actually discriminated against those who wanted to do uh organic agriculture, um and so we became privately group for number of years around the farm go so that's all that sort of my background. But about five years ago, um I've always been involved in the environment, help set up the Green party and I came to realize that we were losing the fight against climate change and to me there is no other issues two more important than ashley allowing life to continue on the planet because of the human species goes to stink um. You know other issues aren't quite as important as that and really sort of struck me that about three weeks ago, the New York times, magazine devoted their entire edition to the point that all life on the planet is doing um and what they are you, as well. I know 30 years ago there was a moment when there was less partisanship and dc and we knew about climate change 30 years ago. We could have taken action and the fact that we did not take Action is now too late and life as we know it on this planet will come to the end sometime in the next. You know 30 to 50 years you may not know what that life will be in the future. Um you know there are some people talk about the possible extinction of species uh I'm sorry, human species. We are already killing the other species for to the sixth grade extension 63 extension in the history of the planet right now, probably have of the species on this planet will disappear within the next 50 years and We're species so if the rest of the weather life disappears is not entirely clear that we can survive now. I'm not quite as pessimistic as the New York times. Um certainly climate changes is already happening and we can't stop it it's gonna get a lot worse we're gonna get a lot more heat weighs alot more floods, lot more wild fires, a lot of strange. You know, hurricanes and stuff like that but we can try to mitigate how bad ugh climate changes and then how is that we're all gonna respond to it is gonna respond by basically the one percent protecting themselves and building by Those fears and stuff like that and we'll have armed guards in their life, will be okay and the other 99 percent will be out. There fighting for access to food and water or do we say that we want to cooperation between Wall you know, people on the planet and we try to figure out how do we survive. It and I would be forever with you know this one of the Corporation so about five years ago I decided to quit uh aggression and workout in the eighteen years and focus on climate change. I thought that the skills that I Learn as an organizer uh, I used to work with a group called acorn um. Many years ago. It was est head organizer for them. Might be helpful in the climate change fight fast forward um. I hoped up alive with this group call three 50 dot org started by bill mckibben and others and their son of the great mobilize your community people around the planet around climate change that's why I decided to work with them and about five To go, they decided to this campaign to get uh faith groups and colleges and the government to divest from fossil fuels and they saw that as an Organisation strategy like we did with apartheid in South Africa. You know how can we put public pressure on the fossil fuel industry, but how can we also give people local targets to take it, organize how we take the Big global problem and bring it down to a local level and that was quite successful because within three weeks of lunch in the campaign, we had a hundred and 90 separate uh investment campaigns across the country. Now because I've worked alot with the state Legislature to the hunger action network, I said I'll take responsibility for coordinating the efforts to device is the New York city pension funds and, in New York state pension funds for possible. I was living in New York city at In brooklyn as we discuss um when we started the campaign, the purpose was it is morally wrong to invest in an industry which is destroying life on the planet and we get an extra one percent or two percent rate of return. What good does it do if we destroy the life on the planet if we flood brooklyn and queens and staten island if we have you know people in Greece just like you know three weeks ago, uh eighty people that killed in the firestorm literally they dont open to the ocean to try to escape the fire man drowned in the ocean for uh the arctic spin on Fire this year temperatures of God and we have 90 degrees up to the North pole. You know really enjoyed the arctic circle right where climate change to see most is at the North pole at the polls at the extremes and at at the equator and the quest who gets most impacted negatively by climate change is to support people of the planet and particularly is the industrial Nations like the United States who um have driven Climate change through burning fossil fuels and then it's developing countries, particularly those countries within two thousand miles of the equator which will see catastrophic climate change. Uh as soon as and in fact they probably will hit catastrophic climate change within the next two to three years. So time to show it um, since we started the campaign, we manage the best um will get 900 institutions worldwide to the best from fossil fuels um representing about six point two trillion dollars, not be billion T as in trillion, which blows away, we never thought we get that many places to the best we recently got um in Ireland became the first country to the best and in January we ask you manage to convince New York city to divest New York city is the third largest pension plan in the country and we can talk about how we did that but we managed to pull that off, but we've not been able to get the New York state pension funds to divest from fossil fuels and, unlike New York city with It is 15 different people trustees who operate the pension funds that gives us more ways to get votes as we're able to win it in New York state. The controller is the sole trusted condon app he gets to make world incisions another long story, but time to an athlete was appointed by the New York state Legislature to be the controller othe the previous control Allen heaven see have been forced to resign over minus scandal and then went to federal prison over a big scandal, acting was forced to resign um, but since time which basically A block from the state Assembly and became to stay controller the Assembly protects them so we knew it would be difficult to get the Legislature to actually pass award the first time to an athlete to the best, because um he's, their guy um. But we thought, if we can get 50 state legislators to Co sponsor legislation, he might get the head that enough Democrats wanted him to do it. That we do it well. We got in to 50 legislators and our Co sponsor But he will not do that and what do you argues is, is that I want to engage and share all their advocacy. I wanna go as a stockholder and exxon is a billion dollars in next time six billion dollars or 11 billion dollars in fossil fuel companies and I wanna vote my shares to get excellent to do a better job and climate change and we're like you know time, people have been doing shareholder advocacy. Now for 50 years there's, not a single success Story after 50 years and we also discovered that you cannot actually introduce this year old is resolution that deals with the core part of the business. You can see if you want more women on the board of directors and if you win is on the advisory. But you can't say as we need to say you need to keep eighty percent of your fossil fuel reserves in the ground, so we think it's not a you know, particularly good idea um as I said, we started this on the moral issue um but as we Um we also began to realize that, as a fiscal issue in Paris, the world said we are ending the terror of fossil fuels. Now we would like to in that now they're more likely in that and twentieth 30 years will be too late, but their Internet and as your industry is ending quite in the world that's not a good long-term financial investment and in fact, since we started the campaign five years ago Uh this is an investment firm that calculated this. Um. We would have an extra 13 billion dollars in the state pension plan. If they had the best in five years ago and that's not a huge number. You know 13 billion is pretty big, but it represents about a two percent annual rate of return that state pension plan is now 203 so we won you know I'm running to push the development issue he's never been even want to meet with us. We have members of staff, but not with with him and how we will talk more about it. I mean Investment is symbolic to me is sort of incredible that we still have to fight this, but but but we do um but we also really wanted to go to a hundred percent clean energy by 20 30 and we want to um stop fossil fuels right now. No more fossil fuel infrastructure. No more gas pipelines. We wanna go to all new vehicles being um zero emission electric cars by you by 20 25, we want all new buildings to have Net zero carbon emissions, which is what California just did they actually went further, not only must every new building in California now have net zero carbon emissions. It must also include solar uh. We also have a positive impact in terms of let you production I'd own necessary man that you have to have solar. If you wanna do geothermal rather than solar, you know fine with me, but the idea, if you want your buildings of the energy efficiency so that's that's. Why. I'm running. How it's almost almost but not quite um just real quickly uh and I'm an attorney um. I graduated For my class at in management on random non profit from 28 years, I can, I can read spreadsheets and balance you know books and stuff like that and um I'll also served on the town board and post to kill uh and 11 of the things. I didn't say was no other elected official. I believe in New York state can say, is, I cut taxes every single year. I was on my town board now I also manage to increase services every single year. I was on my town board and gave the workers a pay raise and get the library moon and close to town landfill, so how do you all Do that well, I did crazy things and I came in and I said we have to cut spending and we just got through a 30 percent tax hike. So people are really upset and it's a small rural town. I live in three to one Republican to Democrats and we managed to sweep every see so I said we're gonna just put every singles contract with the town out a bit you know, let's get three bids. Will take the cheapest. You know and will save money that way and so I do that I do it for the The insurance contract and suddenly little town of four thousand people this 50 people at the town board meeting all screaming and yelling what's. This about uh it turns out long story is always um that the chair of the County Democratic party was a unnamed Co ensure our town insurance contract unlink of what's, that oh that means he gets half the profit, but you don't know that he has any involvement with your town insurance contract so he went to federal prison for two Here's on that one uh and that help clean up the town, a little bit and started to keep the prices down. Um ideas to stay, control as well to be more of an advocate. Um one of the things I've you know, one of the things that we should not allow the state budget to be passed without complying with the court order on increase in um school a to the load to the inner city schools and to the Royal schools is a court order. We passed the budget and don't comply with that uh as I said I'm a big single payer advocate basically get rid of all insurance companies. one Program pays all bills you can save about 40 to 50 billion dollars a year. Tom actually was uh, a sponsor of single parenting news in the state Assembly. Um. I tried to get him to do um study on how much money we would save because I thought would be helpful to controller would actually crunch the numbers. How much we have how lower County property taxes because if you had a many okay program, you don't have to have property taxes. I'm sorry you have single payer program. You don't need County property taxes, paying for medicaid any longer and normally have to the taxes. I want in So when I was on my town board, one of things, I fought for unsuccessfully was to get the state Legislature to comply the governor with the state finance law which required to that point, section 50 48 percent of the state revenues were to be shared with local governments and this was started on the knot Nelson rockefeller and the idea was at the local level. You only on the sales tax and the property tax basically taxes that will only come people pay uh where's the state as the income tax Tax and other things is more Progressive so Nelson Republicans have let's, let's share more money with the local governments and every year um the state budget would say not would stand in with the law says here's how it should giving you so starting at eight percent. We were getting about two percent now we have zero point four percent, so we went back to state revenue sharing. We could lower the local taxes, property taxes and also to increase services so it was a lot of other things I Uh one last thing I mentioned earlier that my group at work to raise the state minimum wage and after the sale so we registered minimum wage. You know some low income community groups in your city called me up and said you know that that feels we were not helped by that and I said this I know who's that bad deal and we did his best as we could to promise we're you know cuz you represent poor people were not in the final negotiations. We got sold out by the Democrats. You know them. Above is another No, no, you don't understand what I'm saying and so remember them. Invasion. They told us about this little problem. Cold wage that and basically, seven eighty percent of all low income workers have money stolen out of every single one of their paychecks. Um alot of has to do with abusive overtime, rules and you know, like in New York city. You work eighty hours 70 hours and he still paying for 40 and when you tell me you know they just raise the state minimum wage nigga oh that's something that we'll all be. Does has nothing to do with you with me this is what I'm paying you um so I'm I came in he got a billion dollars being stolen. He basically told the labor Department. I want you to back up on that wage. That stop I wanna pro business administration and I want you to support the businesses and not the low income word and so. Instead of you know, one billion dollars being stolen as an underestimate. They were collecting 22 million dollars 22 million of dollars being stolen so we didn't convince them to nap We need to do and what it, which he did. He admitted yes, there's a problems to three year back look and you're a low income worker and you file wait stephanie. You know, complain and they take some three years before you can call into tortilla you're not there any longer the records are no longer there and also what was happening typically New York city, like alot of people. I was working with the Asian Americans and Hispanic latino belong to work in that like Chinese restaurants and so you can win with Each water for that that they will close the business down and then on Monday reopening oh no, he's not here anymore uh he's. Your uncle, my uncle in the business. Now so he would not follow through with that wage staff recommendations. We really wanted to double the number of the staff and so there's a lot of influences the state controller can can have, but the other main reason I'm running is because, in order for the Green party to have official ballot status in New York, we gotta get 50000 bonus for governor and eight years ago. This guy Walk ins manage to do that. We had gotten it back with grandpa months to how Louis back in 19 98. We lost it and how we got is back. This is gonna be a tough year for us so how you walk in to tell us why he deserves not 50000, not a hundred thousand votes he deserves all of those you got five percent last time for governor. Now is the highest vote. Total. Any third party candidate New York state for governor and the century it is gonna, give you the statistics about love, but at any case, how are you looking to go and I will come back and take any questions. You can. You give me so I can stand so. I can talk to everybody right on it and my back thanks and thanks everybody for coming um yeah just correct that this third party left. We got the highest percentage and a hundred years member Tom valentine, that was the billionaires party so you got a little higher percentage at Rated uk's but dollar for dollar. I got more votes needed by along shot so my name is holly hawkins uh I've been active in movements for peace, Justice, labor the environment since 19 60 s got started with civil rights and anti Vietnam war. I went to colleges in the Marine corps worked as a carpenter of work organizer and a-team stir recently retired from ups, but I worked as a warehouse worker for the last 17 years, but the reason I'm running And I ran in 20 10 and get the beltline and 20 eighteen to get the five percent 20 16 20 14 20 eighteen now been three campaigns reason. I'm running is that the two government parties and two party has been in power cannot solve anything. Let's talk about lead poisoning 47 years ago the surgeon general issued of urgent warning that our children are getting poisoned by this dust off the lead paint you need to test them, treat them if they're uh blood levels are elevated and mediate the problem 47 Years ago and what do we got today in the zip code, where Sydney 38 percent of children have one in five micro grams per decade. Leader, which is the federal standard above which you need to be treated. 38 percent. My city is 40 percent buffalo is also 40 percent. This is criminal neglect by the two government parties in the power structure. It can't solve problems day gerrymander their districts. We don't have competitive elections every 10 years you know that we draw the lines Democrats, Republicans Divide, it up so you got majority Democrat in one district majority Republican. Another, not much competition cause. You know it is overwhelming one party or the other, so okay. I was looking for that that's what I would do I'm sure you got into the code so I can use it okay alright and keep on talking you can do both in your life alright. I don't multitask multitask and you don't get things right so where was Um, I was talking about the gerrymandering okay, so they have an election and they fight like cats and dogs about a few social issues. You know, guns, God, gays and abortion right, but when it comes down to doing business and get behind close doors, it really on the same team, we all use an example that I just went through the one of the founders of the Progressive caucus in Congress, George Miller from the district, just North of barber Lee the rundown Tuesday and it's richmond conquered in the Bay area and I came up in the Bay area. I knew this When I was coming out of high school, he was up and coming politician. He was the sponsor of the House side along with the Senate, with Republican, to remove the protection in the employment retirement income security act of 19 74. They guaranteed us our earned pensions could not be cut and they attach that to the omnibus spending bill at the end of 20 14 and so just before I retired They cut my pension, 20 percent existing the tires got cut 30 percent us Treasury Department approved this is the by partisan. You know the point is they don't care about us. They care about the financial institutions that back them when they run for office in the real estate industry and the oil and gas industry, so that's why we're running now the program. I want us to implement in New York all the Green new deal for New York and it's the new deal full of fulfilled, like franklin roosevelt talk about his last state of the Union address so everybody will have the right to a job Or they can't work and income about poverty, ot decent home, a good education, comprehensive healthcare. Some of these things in the Democratic party platform from the forties to the seventies, then they started dropping off like the right to a job that was a hungry hawkins bill. 19 77 car got it so told the Fed balance unemployment inflation. They always worked on inflation was high inflation at that point, but there was no program of public jobs for the unemployed and then Part of God tonight I'm in Clinton got the nomination. 92 National health insurance. What we call single payer was knocked out of the platform so now we got Democrats who is conservative and Republicans were in our kitchen. The basic point is when it comes to the economic class issues that affect us. There on the same page and you're, not with the people and so what happened to that thing was it was picked up by the civil rights movement and you know the fact is that the new deal was segregated so by rusted in it Grand off Martin luther King and Michael harrington, those people were in the socialist party little social Friday organize the March on Washington for jobs and free and they said we want to second our bill of rights. We wanna guaranteed income a job, a big housing program that was part of the March on Washington and then you have the freedom budget in 19 66, which was here Congress here's, a budget to fulfill that program and King try to continue that with the poor people's campaign in 19 68 now from my point of view, that was a Problem ruston and randolph said oh Johnson one of the lamps. We got labor liberals and blacks together. They can rule and we just need to get the Democrats to do that and then Johnson goes off the war in Vietnam and King says you're gonna lose the war on poverty in Vietnam invested in randolph who have been more visitors randolph resist the world war. One he was in there with eugene debs with the social, far your clothes that will rust and went to prison for world war two, so he said I'm not gonna cry to the same located on And now they was silent on the event and King came out and spoke out against it. A lot of people turn to give him, but he said we can't count on the Democrats. Order, because we gotta have all moment our own political independence and that should be the basis of power and he wanted to go to Washington and, basically, camp out on the ball and do civil disobedience to parents can do is freedom, budget or what they called in the economic uh the uh for people's campaign the economic feeling Alright so that's what the Green new deal is. We, wanna continue that the man and finally fulfill it. This economic bill of rights and I'mma call it the Green new deal because we're talking about earlier, you know our future is in peril by this climate crisis is Prime an emergency so we're calling for a hundred percent clean energy by 20 30. We know it's technically and economically feasible. We have a study by scientists, engineers and economists from cornell and stanford that documents, how to do that. That came out 20 13 and we now have legislation Mark actually had a lot to do with writing. It I've been campaigning for this two campaigns. 20 10 20 14 now we got legislation and, besides being what we need to do with the climate, science, as we need to do in industrial States like New York. If we're gonna avoid runaway global warming and climate catastrophe, it's also gonna revive the economy because that study show that would create hundreds of thousands of good jobs in manufacturing construction When building this system out and once you build it out, you don't have fuel cost. You don't have to buy oil gas, coal, nuclear rods, the Sun shines rivers flow winds blow the way it's coming. It out with his all these forms of natural energy around us. You build the technology to harvested and your energy class will be cut in half according to the study which will help the economy, lower the cost of living for all of us to lower the cost of doing business so that is An outline what we, wanna do with the Green new deal. What it's really about is revitalizing the public sector services and infrastructure energy, broadband roads and bridges housing and transportation. You know the big problems down in New York city with the public housing and it just disintegrated under watch um so we want to invest in those things and it also the way we're gonna revitalize the economy upstate. You know what normal tries to do is give tax breaks and subsidies Contracts and favors to his dorms and so you get all this corruption, like the buffalo billion in the Broadway for the plan down here in the hudson Valley and it's the old trickle down thing that we've been living with it for 40 years and have a triple down and get the money to the rich and then they're supposed to invest an entire and then we'll get the benefit, but when we're so cool, we can't afford to buy what's already being produce, they have no reason to expand so, instead of when you get to win for what they do, it stock buy backs mergers and acquisitions. They just re arranging concentrate the wealth we already have. They don't create new We know that from the windshield windfall from the trump for the tax cuts, little bit highly publicize winners, wages and bonuses, but the lion share of the time. Eight 98 percent of it went to the stock buyback with jacks of the stock price, with the manager of life, so our approach is to invest in the things that everybody benefits from like this in public infrastructure, the jobs that come with it uh. We wanna raise The minimum wage we've been fighting. We were fighting for 15 back in 20 10 now formal says he did well. Let me tell you my consolation prize for my uh pension cut as I can go back to work and get my little attention. But it lose all missing. You already and I go back to you so no trucks after this election, if I'm not governor I'll be paid the minimum wage it's 10 40 promo says 15. He got it to fit no, he didn't upstate. It gets to 12 50 in 20 21 and then the girl studying it will still be a poverty wage And when the people can't buy what's already being produced, business is not gonna expand on the other hand, if you help the people at the bottom, they got money in your pocket. They spend in the business expands and hires to meet that demand. So our approach is bottom up instead of this top down trickle down, it don't trickle down that we've got from the Republicans for decades now that's why the real wage in this country is a dollar less than it was in 19 73. It was 23 something in 23 60 and now since 20 to 60 and change Um the wealth in this state other the income in 19 eighty was 12 percent of all the income went to the top. One percent today. It's 31 percent it's. 90000 taxpayers in the state getting 375 million dollars a year just four million dollars each now that's. How we're gonna pay for the Green new deal we're gonna have more Progressive taxation we're gonna do like we did in the 70 s when the bottom bracket was to percent. They raised it's the fourth of That happened in the area for which everybody, kinda thinks back to the news. The liberal, but he talk that way he didn't act that way and in the top rack in the southern half from over 15 percent to six point 85 and now we have a little surcharge sorted expires next year. You gotta you gotta push to get that million of set so we wanna expand the brackets for multi millionaires on income lower the bottom breakfast make it more Progressive that will give us 10 million dollars uh according to a spreadsheet. We got from an economist will be unveiling informally in a couple of weeks uh the stock transfer tax A good tax cut so what most people get attached to the bottom half of the income scale. Yeah we'd lower those practices back to the way they were in the 19 70 s um and that means people have money in their pocket. They'll spend it because working people got expenses to meet right now the problem is we can't pay our bills were in record death and a lot of people are having trouble paying the rent and that's why almost this is going up down 90000 people in New York state that's when the farmers watch really has going on um so to stop Transfer tax that's pennies on the trade and it generates between 13 and 16 million dollars in the last two years. We give it right back since 19 eighty one. This is part of the trip and economics. We collect it, but then we give it right back to this traders on Wall Street and that's just politicians benefiting their benefactors who give the campaign donations and then there's up to 10 million dollars in this truck corporate tax windfall and we're saying, if that's not spin on raising workers wages are hiring, new people, it should come back to the public Treasury will keep it in the state. It would go to the federal Treasury And we use it for the things people need so that's another piece of the program and at this point I guess the last thing I'll say it's okay. So a lot of people say man. How we know that all sounds good, but I'm scared to death of these Republicans, especially need the truck and what I would say first of all, is which will cover you for more trump. I mean narrow. You know, following trump is a lot in common right. Everybody around them, just getting part for doing something wrong and off exit off the prison and invited it turns on them Turn on them real, quick. They demand total loyalty. I told that to a Republican Congress than I ran into recently and he looked around he said your right. How he would say it publicly, but you know I think everybody knows that um but I think the biggest check we can tell people you don't have to worry because the Democrats still gonna have the Assembly I'll, probably have the Senate so it is modeling narrow because I get a lot of votes and maybe some other people take both from coronel my name is gonna kinda be boxed in. He can't really do that much damage on the other hand, the Democrats, with We can't solve problems that's. Why we're trying to get in there is greens and if we don't win the office, we can still have enormous influence like we did in 20 14 that's. Why we got the ban on fracking you know I've been campaigning for that from 20 10 formal. Never made a commitment on it, but after the election he put his finger to the wind and when the health Department said in my danger the worries that okay will will benefit um paid family leave We actually got that one. The minimum wage not so much, but he talks about it. Uh tuition free at cuny and suny schools, not so much, but he's talking about it. So it's better to vote for what you want and make the politicians come to you. Then to vote for the Democrats is the lesser evil, even on the line like the working families line because in the end you get lost in the sauce, they don't know why you voted for the Democrat and fold take that as a vote for what he wants to do on the other hand, if We got a big boat plumbers looking over there saying how do I compete for those votes and he might do some things that we want so I'll stop there and thank you everybody for the money for your campaign and yeah okay the way we raise money, unlike and unfollow actually have more donors and he did in 20 14, but my average stoner was 35 dollars and his 30 500 dollars um so you know he had a hundred times more for every donor, so he had millions and I had you know, tens of thousand But we can do alot with their tens of thousands if you measure dollar vote, we got the most votes. We won the election so, yes, if you can make a small contribution, you know we do it. Bernie sanders style Bernie really did it how hard can start cuz. I did this before he did running for President, but anyway he did it on a bigger scale uh take a um contribution slip and uh. You know, fill it out and put your contribution with it and get it back to me so now you can take Comment thousand