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And we're with birthday newly elected leader of you can see the party in the forum for democracy is a new political party that focuses on the your skepticism uh controlling our borders restoring Sovereignty small government and directed moments to referendum since so thank you for joining us and a few questions for you today thank you so in light of the Manchester terror attack does the Netherlands have an aneurysm and immigration problem it's a We do what I think we're all of our European countries have this problem we see now that two thirds of the teachers for time in large cities in the midlands say it integration has completely failed uh Elements for a Street cannot be told anymore like the holocaust paper magic young girls are forced to wear a veil in the streets we'll see you guys in crime rates and so so it's not just your perry serious problem we have a serious problem with we have We're victims of several terrorist attacks in the Netherlands but also your general in our societies we see that these traditional liberties freedom of our children the people women on the Street uh those freedoms are being curtailed Our other threats and we need to do something about it does your election signal that the Dutch people share similar concerns oh yes I think so if you look at the part of it's over 55 percent of the parties have just been elected have campaign significantly on The issue of immigration of course the problem is the day after the elections most mainstream political parties forget about all those promises and they continue the policies over open borders which are policies and post on our country's by the And our political leaders unfortunately do not have the courage to stand up against to you President trump recently met with your leaders this week are you encourage by his posture and his foreign policy compared to what americas was under four And Obama yes I think it's any case it's it's better than you had before trump seems to take much more realist stance you purchase our European countries to pay up to our nature of the game And if it's very sensible thing to say I think he has proposed more realistic and less idealistic approach towards countries in the Middle East deviating from the agenda of regime change anything More towards stability instead I think it's a very positive development but of course I mean we have to see how things play out but in general I think I'm optimistic and hopeful it's hopeful step forward so you describe yourself as a skeptic of the opinion actually I would go a little bit Are there even noticed your skeptic I mean your entire list I think the European Union is a mistake it's a misunderstanding what we signed up for it originally the idea of free trade you know preparation with each other being friends run enemies having good relations with our name It is something we all still uh very much support but with the European Union has turned into something completely different it's a go to Super state is something that diet desires to be United States of Europe it some point in the future And that's something that none of us really ones none of us actually everyone to vote for it and it cannot work we see it everyday with the for example your currency which is a dramatic instrument that brings poverty to the How's it is causing massive inflation in the North are pension savings for example are under threat because the low interest rates artificially low interest rates so that you're a currency Shows that different economies in the different types of society that we have in your shouldn't and cannot really brought into the same room into the same economic policies straight jacket so we'd stop that we need to work together at the It's a free trade brother life with Britain is not trying to two bills you know when leaving the European Union I really hope that my country is going to leave the EU Super we're fighting for a referendum in the Netherlands you breakfast For the next it referendum recall it as so we might be able to even pulls our favorite domestic say three months ago we had a pool that looks which show that 56 percent of the Ducks now prefer a future for the country out of the My final question do conservative in the Netherlands have nearly as much influence their as conservative in the us have here I'm fortune at this moment no I mean all our universities are very left wing media Left wing we do not have powerful think think of focus groups yet but things are changing rapidly uh my parties is working for your heart not just for our own goals in our own campaign suppose to support other groups and help them and you know I study staff there base their and their networks and with the believe the mainstream media rapidly declining because of the rise of social media I think within the coming five to 10 years we're going to see a very significant change in the way that the climate of political discourse to climate of universities of the debate in general and lots of changes coming up I think thank you so much for joining us thank you











