It would make me feel good to go punch a Nazi but I know that's not going to change that person's mind. They want your anger because it feeds them and that's exactly what they're looking for My name is angela King I'm, a former violent, far right extremists and today I help to disengage others out of far right extremists on. We try to use positive messaging to what others who are currently involved in the violent, far right, know that when they become disillusion we'll still be here to help them to just thinking trauma. People are angry right now, with the kind of rhetoric they see coming out of the violent, far right, certainly it's really easy to respond with the same kind of aggression, but I have Ever met one individual that said, I got the shit beat out of me or I got hit in the head with a rock or somebody punch me in the face and that's what changed my mind, it takes so much more strength to respond with kindness to really understand that that kind of change is possible there's, definitely a spike and individuals who come out of trauma or abuse or you know situations of being bullied and they're seeking Just all kinds of things that acceptance love belonging feelings of important personally, I had some really horrific experiences at an early age. I was rates more than once. I was bullied to a point that I internal lies the horrible things that people used to say to me. I eventually became angry because I felt disenfranchised and the place that I eventually found um accepting send those with a group of me and the skinheads I never had to explain why I was angry. Um. They were angry to um so being aggressive being violence. Um. It was acceptable there. I went to federal prison at the age of 23. I was smoking a cigarette in the rec area and a woman of color look at me and said hey do you know how to play cribbage and I was like what the fuck is credits um not only did you teach me how to play cribbage um. She became um a friend who treated me like a human being when I didn't feel like a human being, it was simply you know Kind acts from people who knew why I was there and I knew I was a racist. They knew. I was there for a hate crime and that would early did change the direction of my entire life and when we have that compassion and we share our own experiences of black people know that there's hope because there is coming a day when they are gonna rethink. What they're doing it helps us break free it's not about saying the hate was okay the violence was okay. What we're doing is isolating the human from what was done to them and what they did to others and trying to save them