Hey guys how's it going joshua think liberty and today we have a another special live stream interview with a mother who real candidate for the state of Illinois Jon Stewart. He is one of three candidates running for election and I believe you guys um election processes on Saturday, correct yes, this Saturday, coming out March, third, those for my 51 50 first birthday, nice, nice and they're gonna kick the soul guide to the curb and put me out to pasture like all the other College, absolutely will thank you so much for We appreciate your having here yeah would like yeah absolutely so as this customer would think liberty, interviews. Why. Don't you start off telling us a little bit about how you came to liberty and then eventually to the party sure. Um 51 years old, an automobile dealer run my family's automobile dealership was a former professional rush lenny, as pm for the the way of run for ugh brand is a Republican three times once for state Rep kinda get my feet wet, fill out the The political process and then twice for Congress, both of my congressional campaigns covered by the National media, including the New York times because I was a wrestler and um and I was really getting a lot of traction as a candidate, a lot of preston, a really you know was only in my early thirties and the Republican party just you know everything they promised. They they didn't deliver in everything that you know, George Bush for me, was Death was the last nail in my coffin has Republican um. You know I was, I, as a Republican, I was basically libertarian storage fiscal conservatives, socially extreme, socially liberal um and you know, George Republicans was mostly physically conservative and years. George Bush doubling the debt um. I was totally against the m totally against eventual ism and going into Iraq and Afghanistan when they didn't attack us on nine 11 that was it so I quit Party two thousand eight after every fall out with our party chairman, judy topeka, was passed away and she was nice enough. Lady I'm not gonna triple are great, but we had a big falling quit. The party in a way that was kind of like in this political wilderness um and I was gonna block party one day and I love this story because it's it's such obvious touch. I think a lot of people come to the libertarian party kind of by the means that I did myself and I got a black party one day, one day Hey, I was talking on my neighbors and he's like you know you, you always. You know you talk about why can I pull up a weed out of the ground in my backyard. Smoking. What what's the big deal where I can buy a fifth of vodka and slimming to a minivan full of kids, but I can't smoke a joint and order domino's pizza and you're telling everybody that we shouldn't be in Iraq and F and and I in Afghanistan and you know you know we all know about your dad and your yourself. Your car dealership and how hard it is to be a small business person in Illinois and um. You know you know He's always saying you know just to cares what I do. Bm close doors and he was John. You do realize your libertarian and I know they cannot copy of garden I'm like bull that might be true site. I started to research the libertarian movement the party the message and I think, like a lot of people. I found out that I was basically a libertarian since I was like eighteenth um and that's one in two thousand 11. I join the owner libertarian party and that's where I am here today, nice, nice, so John tell us First day in office you win the governor's race you coming governor of Illinois. What is the first thing you would do in office and easy uh. The prohibition of marijuana not because that's a libertarian but button issue and pandering to the National and Illinois party. I'm not legalizing marijuana in the state of Illinois uh going to do three things and it's gonna solve three oh, I help solve three issues in Illinois that need to be solved. One of them is our budget. They want to be clear when I say in the Vision marijuana I'm willing to allow people in the state to grow it sell it, give it away to their friends if you wanna retail, it in a Strip mall retail location that's what it's gonna be tax that's. The only way it's gonna be text. Um so we did a study in Colorado to bring in a hundred and 25 to 400 and 50 million dollars every year in tax revenue that's gonna go along way to start solving our fiscal crisis, which a lot of people don't know about Illinois. They do no, we are literally at the precipice we're at the cliff of going over into bankruptcy and financial home again, I mean literally I'm not even saying that to scare people so for you know hundred and 25 four million dollars back into the general fund is gonna go along way to sharpe another problem which is our five public pensions and we all about 250 billion dollars by the time 20 47 rolls around quarter of a trillion dollars in chester nickel in the third thing, the legalizing marijuana is gonna do from the Chicago police Department there's the to six, not mine is than 75 percent of the game, war that is happening on the West and South side Chicago and this was one of the three main reasons why I got into this race because I don't think I can effectively Bring businesses and and corporations to Illinois or keep corporations and businesses in Illinois if we have a war inside of our borders and taking mirror what legalizing it from the Chicago police Department statistics and their opinion is gonna take about 75 percent of the game. Kink warfare game crime off the table so those are three huge um issues that we need to tackle in legal Marijuana will help tackle those and start that conversation and start the ball rolling. Um took to getting the state back on track in one last thing. If I may even throw in an additional bonus. I'm gonna make it retroactive on day one. If you are convicted and Illinois of a non violent drug offense, you are going to be released from prison that's gonna free up a lot of jail cells in inner up in our prison system in Illinois in the less prisoners that we have to uh take care of about 40000 dollars a year again that's a lot more money that's back into the general fun going towards our pensions um and in going to our show During up our budgetary deficit, that's it are getting of crisis point as we speak, awesome so so I live in Washington state and we you know we have legalized marijuana for recreational use here. Um and and you mention taxes and now John. You know where libertarians we don't like taxes, so I gotta ask you this question them. A 37 percent, excise tax here on top of the state, local and federal taxes. What kind of taxes where would you be looking at if you are to legalize the sale of retail marijuana sure retail marijuana, whatever what the state the state sales taxes right now in Chicago it's like 10 point five zero uh the color counties it's at nine point 25 the regular sales tax, just to sell that's it. That's it. If you wanna grow, it you wanna sell it to your neighbors. Like your amway, you won't be tax on it, but if you want ever retail location of the business license you're, gonna be text on and it's just like any other business, you know I'm not the guy enough to libertarian that says we don't need you know we don't need any tax money coming in right. I'm a little bit more pragmatic with that I am the libertarian and I think that should be our National party stands which is every week every month, every year, a government from the federal to local, to municipal should be doing everything they can to two minimize their size in minimize the taxation to do more with less um and I think that is the message that will resigned to the Democrats Republicans and independents. I am here to grow the libertarian 30 um and I don't think you grow with the message of um you know, defend yourself put out your own fire. Um. You know educate your children on your own. If you wanna do that that's fine, but I'm a jeffersonian libertarian. I believe government should be there for defense police and police roads. Education and fire and then I do believe that government needs to start doing more with less and they will do more of less in Illinois farm governor couch. I got you so are The mention marijuana sure not running your entire campaign on that. Let's marijuana can you tell me about some of them. The other very important issues that you look to affect change on and Illinois sure up property taxes, a big one. Um you're paying about three times for your House by the time you're 30 year mortgage is advertise uh and that's because of the property taxes. I moved into this House here was 50 500 dollars that was eighteen years ago. I pay 12000 dollars a House in aurora Colorado We'll so the sold for 300 and 50000 dollars property taxes, rain on 50 dollars household in aurora Illinois for 350000 dollars property taxes, great at eighty 700 dollars it's ridiculous. It's 14 um it's the biggest flight out of the state of the 22000 people year the biggest amount of those people are millennials are brightest um our most educated people are leading the state top three reasons, one of them real estate taxes, soak. I believe camping the real estate tax of one percent that's gonna handcuff um local school districts which are out of control. We got a school district that I live in the gym teacher makes a hundred and 33000 dollars a year and we're gonna be paying his pension once the tires at age 53 it's it's you do the back of the envelope math it's not sustainable. So capping real estate taxes that one percent is gonna hand couple school districts and again the Jon Stewart libertarian philosophy. You are going to do more with less it's that simple and I also believe that the the The real estate Texas should be assessed when you buy them and it stays the same until use, sell the House and it gets reassess when you sell it very simple, very common sense and again restraining. Those school district making them do more with more with less. I also believe the 800 pound gorilla in the room are five public pensions, like I said earlier, break, we old 200 and 50 billion dollars by the time to 20 47 rolls around the pensions were negotiated around 12 to 13 percent return on investment in the stock market. Any financial person would probably throw you out of his off hit Her office, if you wanted promise them that you want them to give you 67 percent return on investment, but this is the way we do. The corner Cabinet capitalism in Illinois because remember Illinois isn't broke its fix and in the way we buy votes, is with this crony capitalism. Minutes the you know the five pension public pension systems is one way we buy boats uh the problem is is that it's on sustainable and it is one of the big if that the biggest reason why the state is already in basically receiver shipper bankruptcy, so those the pensions you have to be really go Rated because I wanna keep the pensions, I wanna keep those promises and any new hiring for the state of Illinois get have to go on a four oh four. Oh three or four oh one cases from where I'm gonna have in three different insurance companies manage those systems. We can even up for someone taking a lump sum in the new or yearly payment Internet nudity or a one lump sum payment or let them manager, which I think a lot of people do um in the last thing is bringing businesses back to the state that's how we're gonna go to grow the general revenue of this day and bring people to come back to the state to uh that we are seeing people for Lead to all different States. It's not our midwest problem because indiana wisconsin iowa are all growing. It is the Illinois problem in the biggest reason why businesses are fleeing the state is the corporate tax in workman's cop and I know this from being a small business owner of um that workman's compensation is really um making. Most businesses not expand, leave the state or not wanna come to the state a thousand corporations were polled 97 percent the biggest reason why they're not coming here. Why they're leaving whether not expanding is workman's comp So it's causation compensation uh when you get injured and you go to hospital Illinois. They ask you how did this happened and they wanna know cuz. If it happen at work. They start. You know twisting their mustaches and they can dip into that huge slush fund called the Illinois workman's comp fun and I also think causation I think a lot of these injuries are happening on the weekends weaken warrior type stuff they're not happening on the job yeah people are claiming that they are happening on the job and that's really fraud and waste and abuse and that's taxing the workman's comp system, even further, which is keeping the rates high So there's, a 45 huge um goals of myself as a governor, things that we need to fix and things we know that you need to start having a conversation on or the state of Illinois is gonna look like a banana Republic very soon and if the stock market takes any kind of a downturn um the state of Illinois gonna go from stability to in arky international second and I don't want that to happen, because the great state we are a couple policies away from making this one of the greatest States in the country again like it's one of my goals is governor nice, nice so We all know that the state of Illinois have a Democrat controlled right. What would you do to reach out to the left to make them understand that our policies are the best for individual sovereignty and personal liberty right where you need to start having a conversation with leadership more importantly, you need to start having a conversation with the people of Illinois. We have not had one governor that is effectively communicated the dire situation that we face um and and it's the Materials policy in the libertarian stand so again, smaller government, um minimum taxation. Um. If we can get to that that's how you put this state back on track by capitalism and having a conversation with the people of Illinois, especially the pension years, saying, look if you don't believe me believe the person here is Mike over here who runs the Idaho state pension system. What him tell you that the back of the envelope Math is it's in a death spiral and you will not have a pension it's unsustainable and starting that dialogue. Um with the people and that's how you affect change in America ready democracy is getting the people. Um to give you a mandate. It's a pressure their legislators to make a change and we have not, since in the past 20 years have had an effective governor that is gonna take message directly to the people as much. You the libertarian message. Job fiscal accountability and small Government and I think I can do that there's an interesting thing here in our race, the leading front runner of the group, the entire gubernatorial, a race. His name is jaime billionaire. He is going on record to say you know. I talk with Republicans and I've talked with Democrats in the state. I can't find one person in politics to say a bad thing about John store now here's the front runner in the gubernatorial race. Tony basically, the country in the state that you know that libertarian candidate the wrestler it's, a pretty good guy in everyone like some so When someone says, oh John store can't talk, the leadership and Mike madigan, I find that crazy. Um I'm a sales man you know I'm a former pro wrestler of a politician of a car dealer. If there's someone that can effectively communicate their message um it's judge tour and when you have the front runner of it of a Google troy race, probably the most expensive a gubernatorial race in history will literally be the most important race in Illinois history, telling everyone that the limit Are you candidate John store is a well respected guy and everyone likes them on both sides. I think that send them should send a message to special little materials that we need to put you on store. It out into the main stage. It's good so anything I just, I just talk about facts to that is a different. You know. I don't mean to you know, brothers, one of the things that difference might myself, for my opponents in my opinion and I'm not being negative, is that everything that comes out of my mouth. I can back up with a news article, a statistic were an expert on it So you know, that's I want people to know that I'm just making up that the front runner has said this. He's going on record to say this it's you know, I think it's really clear, much is that I can get along and work with both both parties in each side of the aisle that's great segway the next question actually so anybody in the libertarian party that's been following along to the Illinois gubernatorial libertarian race knows that it's been pretty heated, even raising the kid. You tell me a little bit about how that would down and and how you handle that and who you think, may be your biggest uh challenge in the Reassure what the biggest challenges cast Jackson and I call him the messiah you and I eat you know, he's a friend of mine saw you know because you can't kill jesus christ and what and when you feel me comes back from the dead and eventually people where his image around their neck and I say that if actually have told everybody is one of the most charismatic politicians I've ever seen I've been doing this for 25 years in Illinois and I met people from Obama down tell you know all them in that could form a sentence together and catch is very charismatic um so you know And people, I think because he's had a lot of personal challenges that people relate to him more I've shied away from talking about my personal past, which is been you know, check out a little bit too, which I know events and extremely low point in my life. Um but I straight away from talking about that, because I want people to focus on my issues, I want people to focus on what I will do as governor, not feel bad for me or have any sympathy for me. I just met again I'm not going I'm just saying my choice in my direction of my campaign. I want Um have people vote for me who believe in my message to believe in me. Um not so much vote for me because I've had a hard life which I, that um and then there's max. You know again, is a friend of mine also there's, not a week goes by that math doesn't send me a phone call or a message that makes me laugh um and um. It and I mean that sincerely because you know to make me laugh on fix gonna takes a lot. What you know matt that is like you know match the info guy hey. This is matt scaro and welcome to the living you know I mean, after this always done, I like to sit down with men, say, look, you just need to have a regular You know, speech pattern and conversation with people. He comes off so like prepared and infomercial life in the next thing out of his mind is but wait there's more. You know and and that's because of a theater major and I understand his point, but I don't think it's resonating with people um and I think you know the way cast Jackson talks. I think that's the reason why. I'm leaving my wife such as, like after, like you, know, cash really is his voice is very call me honey that's my apartment, but you know In the storehouse week we're honest were you know this. Another thing about me that you know I live in reality. I don't take the Red trolley to the neighbor to make believe and I think that bothers a lot of people and I think that you know I think, a lot of people appreciate that and you know not acknowledging that cash is very charismatic is great here's the problem the problem is we know him as Illinois libertarians. He has no money. he Is not gotten any kind of substantial meet major media, so no one is going to hear is message and when, if cash is elected, the first stories on cash are gonna be about his personal issues and I'm not gonna listing your cuz. He's. My friend and I'm trying to keep this race. You know, above board and I am the elder statesman of this race so I'm try you know, but but the first and we can't get around catches, personal issues that the local media in the springfield media are just gonna switch play them to death and I'm trying to like wait every Body to think to say you know you've got enough you've got a guy with me. I've been doing this for 25 years. I have the oldest libertarian in this race. I've got most the most media coverage of any libertarian in the history of the libertarian party other than Gary Johnson. Let me repeat that I've gotten the most media of any libertarian candidate in the history of our party nationally over the Gary Johnson I've been doing this for 25 years. I'm a small businessman people on both sides of the aisle Like me, I've got a family. I got the whole package that people are, would feel comfortable in voting for a third party. If they and when they decide to go on that Bell booth and finally make the switch over to a third party candidate they're gonna one of guy or a woman that's married that, as a family, small business person, experience um and someone that they've heard of um I had probably over 400000 dollars of free media in the past year in it. I just was on National Tv less Sunday and it's gonna continue to find the candidate and that is important because, as a third party Candidate in this race, if you don't have millions of dollars to buy media you're, gonna need to get it for free and none of my two opponents can get you know is great and I really believe that and you tube is great, but it's not gonna reach eight million people in Illinois you're gonna need to be in the tribune the Chicago Sun times um you're gonna need to be you know, on Fox nbc Cbs and I've been on all of those and I've enjoyed this great relationship with the media, so cash has this great message the problem is no one knows him and no one is going to hear is message but we think we his great because we know him And we know it's personal, his personality. We knowing because we're inside we're parties insiders but with the party needs to understand my Saturday is the general public is no idea cast your action is the general public has an idea. Oh, yeah oh yeah the rustling from the North shore. I know that guy he's, a nice guy July sky and I think I have the image to look the family the business and political experience that someone would feel comfortable as choosing as their governor to run a state of eight million people Nice, nice fall that's about all the questions I have for you tonight job one more question, though, be sure you have 30 second elevator speech to sell yourself to the state of Illinois. What do you say. I got the experience I've got I've got the manner um and I've got the grass roots and I've got more. I got more at stake in this election than any other politician than any other Google cheerio candidate I'm not a millionaire. I'm, a hard working blue collar guy and I think Illinois is gonna Show my two billion or candidates that money can't buy you love in a can by the state of Illinois awesome awesome. Thank you so much job. We really appreciate you coming out doing this order with us. Thank you. Guys for checking us out make sure you check out the website at think dot com check out the youtube channel. It think liberty, Tv and stick around tomorrow sounds like will be interviewing cash Jackson as well same time hey thanks good job. We appreciate. Thank you, thanks for having I really appreciate it