Hey guys what's going on it's joshua think liberty and today we have our third night in a row of special live streaming interviews with the Illinois libertarian gubernatorial candidates. Tonight we are joined by cash Jackson. Cash Jackson who will also be buying for the gubernatorial nomination at the libertarian party Illinois state convention on Saturday. They do today, cash on doing fantastic man. How are you, oh, you know I can't complain so as we normally do with we start off asking you how you came to the philosophy of liberty and then further into the party okay well Go I was kinda in love the back in my military service, um. I was out about my 17 year Mark in the Navy. 17 eighteen year Mark in the Navy stain rotten their Washington and I have in front of mind she invited me to a libertarian chapter meeting in kitsap County and went to dental e. It was their first chapter meeting and I didn't know anything about libertarians to know anything about the party was very night and Really identified mores Republicans is more conservative, most of my life at went to the chapter meeting and, as I sat here night, listen to the dialogue on hold, it just you know it in resonated with me and a dog on me. I'm like wow um I'm not is Republican words conservative as I thought that I was and I kinda already kinda knew that after being stationed up, there for about seven years between two different tours um no I really begin to realize that yeah what things that I believe before I didn't really think that the government had any business in so I the Institute of marriage, was a really important one at that time. Uh you know talking about gay marriage and legalizing gay marriage across the country that was this big uproar at that time and and and at the time I are you know, help my conservative values and said no. We shouldn't do that, but it kinda took me some so much Touring in just you know, thinking a little bit more outside of my own personal stereotypes and box they're se will know that the government really has no business in the Institute of marriage and should be sacred. Your thing between you and your loved one in doesn't matter. If I agree with somebody or not it's like it is between consenting adults. What businesses that government having that and that kind of took me down that path of whoa. You know I said question more of my own ideas and values Things that I believe, then we, gonna roll me over into thinking about drugs in the world drugs and just really getting into uh the issues. There and come to find out you know the more I thought about very issues. The more I realized uh look I just want the government involved in many things. I just want them. There as they were intended to be too um, protect my rights from being infringed upon by anybody else, and and really that was that and so So I made it up in my mind at that time frame that, whatever I got Sri station back here in great lakes, Illinois, that I was gonna find my local libertarian chapter. I was gonna join the party and get involve and that's exactly what I did rights night. So you rich in Washington and County and a friend out there. It was the friend her friends naomi evans, okay okay. I don't know if I'm familiar some part of the Washington state party and and okay she's, actually not a part of the libertarian um party there. She will Just going to the meeting and she was a Republican in fact, she's running for a Republican office up there. Now and um she just invited me to it. So I'm like yeah I, like to go so it's nice alright, so first day in office. Your elected governor of Illinois what what do you do what is the first thing that you're doing after make a Cup of coffee oh you're gonna need a couple. I think yeah I got a lot of work to do that Um you know uh josh, something that's important to me is what you and I fought for and that is supporting and defending the constitution as well as um defending our country and not only believe that you know we're supporting and defending the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic but that we were also defending freedom because that's what the constitution uh is intended for It's intended as a obstacle between government and infringing the freedoms and liberties of the people that protects and so what I would like to do. My first days in office number one is to identify non by the criminals that were holding in gel uh. They were spending approximately 40000 dollars a year to incarcerate as might be um. I conservative Figure their base on some of the research I've been doing, but some of the neighborhood of 30 to 40000 dollars we're spending to incarcerate these men and women. That aren't really a viable threat to society and what I would like to do is um begin to transition. These people back to their homes with their families um in a responsible way and that's to ensure that I would be setting these men and women up for success um that's one of the first things that I would like to It's not like, I can snap my fingers and make it happen, but it is something I like to get to work on very rapidly and um it's not the most important issue to Illinois voters themselves because we have um other issues that are they're really hurting our state, such as our pensions, our property taxes and things to that degree so those are of equal importance to me, but really um taking men and women that that don't need to be behind bars and re integrating them After their communities and a successful way that something I really am passionate about looking at doing awesome awesome, you mention taxes, their property taxes. We all know that Illinois Illinois has some of the highest property taxes in the country. What kind of tax plan would you be looking at if you are to win the doing a toy race. Well, I would like to Dr Illinois policy Institute land and in a couple different areas, property, tax being one of them um the Illinois policy Institute is more of a conservative think tank and I'm not a Promise but I didn't own a home at one time here in Lake County and in the County that I reside in weren't able station great lakes at the boot camp, a lot of service members live up here in own homes in well, we have the highest taxes in the state and um. It consumes somewhere around um oh goodness gracious about six to seven percent of of income of a household income and so it's really a significant amount in that to give your listeners or viewers an idea about that I purchase the home here in two thousand nine when I came here to be a recruit division commander speech here. Um my taxes that you're ugly for 40 500 dollars while the time I sold it in 20 15. They hit double to right at nine thousand dollars in property tax. So even if I own my home out right I'm still having to rent my home for about 800 dollars a month from Illinois and if I don't do that well then, what happens. They take my home even though I'm located off Because I can't afford such an outrageous property tax, they, your home gets foreclosed on and and you lose everything that you work for. So has a great uh. I think a great plan in one that's two begin with a five year property tax freeze. Um for home role and non home rule units and I don't know if you're familiar with those of um uh if, if you've ever heard home role in non home rule, now Use since a gives in um in certain areas that have above a certain populous essentially what it means is that your local government there can can pass a property tax raises and other things that affect without voter approval. Uh and and it's really become problematic. Your Illinois so that that five year property tax freeze would be for home rule and non home Rule now in doing so, um we would economic grows or I'm sorry property tax. Uh to the piso. Any new, any new taxation will be tied directly to the health and well being of our economy and if our economy is struggling, that means um our taxpayers and turn are struggling in. Therefore, we shouldn't place additional burdens upon them, such as increasing your property taxes, so we would cap that it to Percent and I would even like to go a little bit lower than that. Um maybe the one point five or one percent one percent been a value that's being thrown around a lot by the um. Uh one of the conservative Republican candidates and both of my opponents in both sign it as well. They all got the one percent cat from gentleman here, but um anyways uh captain that often in a maximum of two percent and then last but not least, is putting a two third voter referendum in place to ensure that, in Communities, all across the state, tax payers gonna say no matter where they live in a home roller non home rule unit tax payers have the final say by a two thirds majority on property taxes, get raise their my safeguarding um the entire state and ensuring that citizens all citizens getaway in on whether it's appropriate for their property taxes to be raised again next nice, so we all know that Illinois is a heavily Democrat control state and uh and There's, a lot of gun violence and in the city um and we know that the second amendment is a hot button issue right now. What would you do to improve on on the issues that face places like Chicago and in the gun violence and and still be true to this the second amendment. Well, I think um that we haven't explored far enough into root causes of gun violence uh to often like when we have cases such This tragedy is like in Florida and Texas and Connecticut and so and so forth of course, it becomes than a emotional battle ground between conservatives and liberals over their constitutional right or somebody else is right to infringe upon that. If you will uh friend, since here in Illinois, they are ram running legislation through the House in the Senate as we speak, um that we'll see Definitely impact the second amendment in ones ability to exercise that in our state and its reactionary uh it's reaction areas feel good legislation. It's not legislation that would proof would have prevented any of the attacks that have happened. Um in further, more I don't honestly believe that it would provide protection to our communities in the future and um that's my sincere belief And I really think that we should take a longer more protracted approach and examine the root causes and when I speak of frequently that many people do not and I go into much greater detail about this is the effect of our children growing up in a fatherless generation. I think somewhere in the neighborhood if you research the last 20 Mass shootings in large scale Mass shootings um the majority of these young Men not only were medicated um but they came from fatherless homes and so it's no surprise to me that many of them did come follow us homes and that they were medicated because anytime a child grows up any follow us home. You significantly in increase the chances that they're going to have emotional and mental and behavioral disorders you increase their risk Of teen pregnancy of abortion, of drug abuse of depression, of dropping out of high school living in poverty on on and on and I mean significantly we're not talking one or two percent we're talking 60 70 eighty eight percent. Um these kids that are starting with these issues come from a single parent home and that is not a not on single mothers to often people get caught up in that and think that we are attacking single mothers that is not the case. What it's doing is placing Emphasis on the important of a child having a fulfilling relationship with both parents if those parents are there and they're ready and willing and available to raise their kids and so my two instances, I see two major things that have influence. This in the South and West sides of Chicago. They have unfortunately been um been involved in the war on drugs in those communities for decades in that world drugs is taking it A substantial toll on removing fathers out of homes in large numbers that is the reason why these children are growing up in a fatherless generation in such large scale numbers and those neighborhoods and when you begin to look out from there and he begin to look out into the urban in and in White Middle class areas. What's happening there is that we no longer live in a nuclear family society in new fall Divorce makes it far easier for individuals to get divorce and in doing so, um we're now relegating. Unfortunately, many fathers down to being visitors to their children and these kids are not getting a healthy, viable meaning for relationship with that other parent. I'm sorry, but every other weekend and a few hours on wednesdays is just enough for that child remember who you are and for you, you know to retain a bond of love, but it doesn't give that parent the ability to really raise in mentor and discipline um in really impact Child in shaping them and that's something we have to take a hard look at and it's something that I worked work at very passionately to reform family Wall. Um I've been doing it now for several years and in fact I testified in front of the resort of Justice Committee in springfield uh few weeks ago on House bill 4113 and we try to get this legislation push through, but who opposes these bills, who opposes this common sense legislation that would actually impact gun violence and Get down there would actually um help our children to not grow up with emotional and mental and behavioral disorders where they are then medicated. The American bar Association, the Illinois bar Association, nationwide, the bar Association, opposes this type of legislation because it would significantly impact on their revenue stream 50 billion dollars a year and people say will cash cash Jackson is a single issue guys no he's not he's just very passionate about one issue that impacts multiple things and so addressing the war on drugs and addressing what's happening in family law courts in the stereotypes in the biases against against followers. But that's increasing against mothers every single day because it's all about money that's. It women are in the workforce they're making money to graduating College and a greater rate than men. There are revenue stream just as read Early as fathers used to be historically and in court or in attorneys are taking advantage of that and we're seeing a lot of women affected the same way that men have been for generations so addressing this to big key factors would allow us to address a lot of that violence in you know the next big piece to that is the economic piece um working on the economy in these communities that are struggling and you can't be kinda go hand and hand okay. You have to begin to Heard the violence down to attract industry and business to come in there so it's kind of a very large two part system that we have to work towards absolutely so. We spoke a little bit about Illinois being a Democratic, controlled state. Um. What would you do to reach out to the left to try and bring them to to the light that is individual sovereignty and personal liberty. Well, you, what it takes um it takes building relationships and it takes building trust and that's not done over night um Yeah people are desensitize and used to hearing political rhetoric. They know it when I see it, they know when they hear it in a fortunately, many people are unfamiliar with the libertarian party and I have to take measures to be involved in these communities and one of the ways that I'm doing that um and I've got a little bit of flack for this because I have a lot of supporters from conservative and and liberal um background and this coming week is a matter fact on Wednesday I've help to raise money to take 75 um um black children of predominantly black children from some tough neighborhoods up here, where I live and um I partnered with um black lives matter so I met with the founder of the Lake County black lives matter chapter and um. You know I have been able to get sponsorship now um for about 20 children of the 75 that they intend on taking and it's doing that Like look, I don't have to agree with somebody's one of you, political ideologies, things to that degree, but it's getting to know people and finding out where they come from is not saying that I agree with a message or their position so much. It as it is that I'm getting to know them and why do you feel feel a particular way the only way you can do that is to really get to know people that's the only way and this something that I'm readily adopted doing it is putting my my own political All viewpoints and stereotypes and biases to the side and sitting and sitting down and just having a conversation and finding out how can I help what can I do. Um you know number one only hear your message. I wanna hear what you have to say. It without any spin from the media or a politician. I wanna hear what you have to say and then afterwards I wanna know what can I do to help and this is one small way, but it's something I've done out in standing rock North dakota whenever I was out there with them The standing rock sioux tribe during the dakota access pipeline thing that was was happening last year and it's what I do with family law reforms. What I do it in meeting with black lights matter is just developing relationships. Jab salutes, my heart on as I travel around the country myself, I always try to tell people the best thing you can do is sit down and listen and then address their concerns always always always lent so let's talk, a little bit about your your race here. You got the the nomination process coming up on Saturday and I, around the corner yeah absolutely Um, I will has the campaign been with with the other two competitors that you're facing how, how is the relationship and I know I need libertarians that I've been watching have seen a lot of fun going on there self I'll tell you what um we've had our fair share drama uh one B libertarian party without it, you know what I really thought that for the most part we will be able to keep it at Bay and um I've made a concerted effort during my Campaign to ensure that I try and stay um you know just trying to stay the course of stay on message they on topic and not a Green with one of my opponents. Um it should be about our policies and that's it. I don't really care about their background. I don't care about any transgressions in their path. It's on my business um that's for other, for other people to find out and deal with in their own way and how they do these things and I think I ran a great Painting doing that myself and my campaign team, we stayed on task we've kept our focus on identifying problems and finding viable solutions through multiple sources and just focusing on that and try not to let you know the petty political crap. Um you know, get under my skin. You know being in military. We get. I mean we get plenty of flack, whether we're you know on a ship out at Sea or in boot camp or anywhere else, so, after 20 years of that I'm pretty desensitized to a lot of things in uh The golding and cause I've gotten it believe me, I mean I've gotten well, you know you're afraid to debate me and this and that and I'm light how man you know, um I mean we we've had three great debates. Um on some nice stages. We have some really nice debates and was very impressed with what got set up for those and um and so you know what I mean both these guys at the end of the day Jon Stewart is a um practice guys been you know this is his fourth times seeing political office. I think I have one uh one House run. I think Congressional runs, if I remember right and so we got a lot of experience behind him and his claim to fame is its ability to reach and get media access. Um and then you have math scaro. Scaro. He can regurgitate libertarian philosophy like no other is is very smart and and you know, come off the cough really quick, but um you know I don't agree with going up approaches that say matt takes and John and I seem to get along pretty well on the campaign trail course, we interact with one another throughout the throughout the state. There and um John and I laugh and You can cut up and up make kind of a big show at things and matt tends to take things. Um you know what way more serious and then what I do and wait. I see them like look I'm not a hundred feet down into the ocean separated from my family for months at a time and and really having a word, worry about the ocean coming inside and killing me and all of my friends um so I think it's not that big of a deal to me. If it's not life or lamb or mission critical. I don't get too worked up over so um and I think that It's that gets to a little bit um. I could be wrong. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know, but anyways up that's not lazy. We got it on Saturday and a know what I mean. I ran a great race it's been fun and I've enjoyed. It so, whatever happens on Saturday, if I don't get the nomination it's not gonna be because I didn't work my tell all I did I work for all year and I don't think you can find a libertarian in the state that will tell you the cash Jackson didn't work damn hard all year long yeah matt matt told me to tell Are you that you thinks you're a gladiator. I think, is what he says. I say God know in the big did you see that the bad maybe something that you know. I just, I miss that one before calling it uh. I leave it to you to watch and up it was our last debate that was our last last. Whenever string by hard our land, Smith, media and you'll need to watch the last save seven minutes, eight minutes closing remarks and you'll know exactly what he's talking about sounds good perfect perfect that's up that's all the questions I have for you night but I do have one more for you 30 second elevator Speech how do you sell yourself as the as the new governor of Illinois. How to get people to vote for a 30 seconds on the only 20 year military veteran right now running for an office in the state of Illinois. I got a tremendous amount of leadership and background in dealing with different demographics. I'm a political activist that is um been from Washington, state to Washington dc advocating for parental and family rights and uh frankly I'm gonna stand out head and shoulders above a billionaire and a multi millionaire, because I don't, I don't buy flannel jackets to blend in with the conservative community. This is just what I wear and at the end of the day. People are gonna recognize a transparent and authentic authentic man and I believe that I'm that guy that's gonna resonate with the voters in 20 eighteen nice nice will thank you so much cash. We really appreciate you coming on the show. Thank you guys for checking us out make sure you check out the website. I think liberty dot com make sure you check us out on youtube at think liberty. Tv and we're looking forward to it. Good luck to you on Saturday and let goes are both You soon yeah